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Call me biased, Verlander should win the Cy. :yeshrug:

Leads the league in WHIP, IP and strikeouts and has the equivalent of like six more starts than Snell. If he only had to throw all out for five innings each game, he'd probably have similar stats to Snell.
 

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Call me biased, Verlander should win the Cy. :yeshrug:

Leads the league in WHIP, IP and strikeouts and has the equivalent of like six more starts than Snell. If he only had to throw all out for five innings each game, he'd probably have similar stats to Snell.

Joe Smith just screwed over a hell of a performance by him today. He has 26 quality starts too
 

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Call me biased, Verlander should win the Cy. :yeshrug:

Leads the league in WHIP, IP and strikeouts and has the equivalent of like six more starts than Snell. If he only had to throw all out for five innings each game, he'd probably have similar stats to Snell.

:mjlol: again wit this bullshyt

Snell

21 wins, .178 opponents average, 7.1 WAR and 1.90 ERA that, if it were to hold, would be third lowest in the league in the DH era (since 1973).

His 26 (of 30) starts allowing two or fewer runs are the most in the AL in 40 years. His 0.96 WHIP is second best in the league. The .555 OPS hitters have posted against him is lower than all but one of the 142 qualified AL hitters, only Baltimore's Chris Davis was worse, at .539.

sub-2.00 ERA in the AL East the Rays feel Snell's strongest case is how he has pitched against the best teams in the league.

Specifically, his 9-2, 2.00 ERA in 12 starts against the five most potent offenses — Red Sox, Yankees, Indians, Astros and A's — which also happen to the be the five playoff teams. That's 16 earned runs total in 72 innings of work.

26 quality starts

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:mjlol: again wit this bullshyt



26 quality starts

Blake snell the al cy young, de grom nl

betts al mvp yelich nl mvp
I think that's how the voting's gonna go for all four. Rosenthal had a good breakdown of the AL Cy vote.

A 200-inning pitcher must be good enough to frequently work through a lineup a third and on occasion a fourth time, getting tougher outs later in games, outs that need not be left to relievers, outs most starters do not get a chance to secure because of data suggesting it is a bad idea. The impact of such outs is difficult to quantify. But as Verlander puts it, “The ripple effect is dramatic.”

Too often in today’s analytically driven game, players focus on individual rather than team performance — and no, the two are not always linked. Hitters try to hit home runs when a less extreme approach might better serve their team offensively. Pitchers try to throw as hard as possible for as long as possible, but often they do not go long enough.

This is not to diminish Snell, who has a 1.11 ERA in his last 10 starts, or even a dominant reliever such as the Athletics’ Blake Treinen, who has a 0.79 ERA in 79 1/3 innings. But shouldn’t a workhorse be rewarded for conditioning himself to make virtually every start, for grinding through innings when he is not physically at his best? Give Verlander or Kluber lesser workloads, and maybe their ERAs would more closely resemble Snell’s.

The lower innings total for Snell is due in part to his stint on the disabled list for left shoulder fatigue from July 23 to Aug. 4, and the need to build up his pitch count over his next three starts. His case remains powerful nonetheless. Among pitchers who have thrown at least 100 innings, Snell leads the majors with a .090 opponents’ batting average (10-for-111) with runners in scoring position and a .060 opponents’ BA (3-for-50) with runners in scoring position and two outs.

Verlander, though, is enjoying one of the most brilliant campaigns of his 14-year career — a career in which he has finished in the top three of the Cy Young voting four times but won only once, in his 2011 MVP season. If he pitches seven innings on Saturday, he stands a chance of joining Pedro Martinez in 2000 as the only pitchers in AL history to combine a season of 215 innings, a strikeout rate of better than 11 per nine and a walk rate of fewer than two per nine, according to STATS LLC. Verlander’s current strikeout rate of 12.12/9 (second in the AL to Gerrit Cole) and walk rate of 1.56/9 (second to Kluber) are career bests.

There also is this: As a less traditional candidate, at least judging by innings, Snell represents something of a slippery slope. A Snell voter would need to give serious consideration to casting a second-place vote for Indians righty Trevor Bauer, who has thrown only 4 1/3 fewer innings and sports a 2.26 ERA. Red Sox lefty Chris Sale, who has thrown 17 2/3 fewer innings than Snell with a 2.11 ERA, also would merit strong consideration — and relievers might, too.

“That’s the question. If voters are going to start valuing quality over quantity, then you need to re-look at relievers, or take a more serious look at that them,” Verlander said.

Like I said, I'm biased, plus Verlander got fukked over twice in previous votes.
 

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Call me biased, Verlander should win the Cy. :yeshrug:

Leads the league in WHIP, IP and strikeouts and has the equivalent of like six more starts than Snell. If he only had to throw all out for five innings each game, he'd probably have similar stats to Snell.

:mjlol: again wit this bullshyt



26 quality starts

Blake snell the al cy young, de grom nl

betts al mvp yelich nl mvp

Like it was said before, be barely goes 5 innings, and also TB don't allow pitchers to go more than twice up against teams if they meet up multiple times a year. Snell deserves 2nd, sorry:hubie:
 

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Like it was said before, be barely goes 5 innings, and also TB don't allow pitchers to go more than twice up against teams if they meet up multiple times a year. Snell deserves 2nd, sorry:hubie:

:dwillhuh:he's faced boston 4x this season and shut them down every single time, the yankees 3x and has several starts going 5+ innings including going 7 vs the astros twice and holding them to 2 earned runs

you clearly don't know what you're talking about get your dikkriding ass out my alerts
 

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:dwillhuh:he's faced boston 4x this season and shut them down every single time, the yankees 3x and has several starts going 5+ innings including going 7 vs the astros twice and holding them to 2 earned runs

you clearly don't know what you're talking about get your dikkriding ass out my alerts
Out of all the candidates, even Sales who was out for many games, they all averaged more innings than this man per games played. Ain't no said he didn't pitch more than 5, it just ain't common. His average is about 5 and 2/3 innings, which would impact his other stats especially his ERA. Dude is having a great year year but other people like Verlander also have had about 26 quality starts but their bullpen fukking erases them right after.

So to dismiss other people's arguements just cuz you wanna dikkride Snell is stupid.
 
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