The 2025 Baltimore Ravens thread

[STAN JONES]

If I am Baltimore, I am getting on the phone with Stephon Gilmore today!!!

results would be the same

the talent isn’t the problem

 

[Omerta]

Need Mike Green and Starke to hit.

That’s the only way you’re gonna improve on last season knowing Harbaugh not going to change one bit.

It is what it is.

 

[STAN JONES]

Pees and Orr. They don’t put anyone in position to make plays. Their philosophy is that as long as you don’t give up a bunch of 50+ yard touchdown passes where the ball is thrown deep, then it’s all good.

I don’t think Orr makes it through the season

a couple more performances like this and Harbs gonna toss him under the bus

after next week game against the browns we play the Lions,Chiefs,Texans,Rams,and then have a bye

depending on how those 4 games go for the defense I can see Orr getting fired before the bye

 

[STAN JONES]

The good it would’ve done this team if he sat that year…


It’s probably on both of them, but given that it’s year 18 for Harbaugh and that he’s still Andy Reid/Herm Edwards/Mike McCarthy territory at managing the clock and had already given Buffalo an extra 3 points with his clock management in the first half, it’s more on him. He needs to make sure his team is locked in mentally and they never are, which precedes Lamar by 10 full seasons.

I don’t have a problem with them snapping early

You can’t complain about them being too conservative with a lead but also want them to milk the clock every play

that shyt kills the momentum

the offense should be trying to score not just run the ball and milk the clock

plus if you don’t score you leave yourself time to get the ball back by not milking the clock

 

[Mantis Toboggan M.D.]

Its the scheme

the corners were playing 10 yards off the line of scrimmage the whole 4th quarter

Soft zones and no pass rush will always get you cooked

I have no idea why they switched up how they were playing

after that checkdown to Cook where he got like 50 yards when the Ravens called a zero blitz they went conservative and it cost them

That was Roquons man btw and he didn’t even attempt to cover him

Hes one of the biggest problems on defense

hes slow and he doesn’t make any plays in the pass or run game

I haven’t checked to see what the cap hit will be but they have to get rid of him after this season

Hes not worth 20 mill per

Same as losing Rex Ryan to the jets instantly caused their defense to lose several steps, losing McDonald to Seattle did it too. Both times the pass defense immediately fell off a cliff. That’s 3 excellent defensive coordinators they’ve lost to head coaching jobs under Harbaugh where the defense took years to rediscover its form after losing said coach.

 

[STAN JONES]

after rewatching the game if the defense just makes 1 play we win

they let these nikkas convert several 3rd & longs and 4th down plays

they dropped picks,let Buffalo catch multiple tipped passes,got penalties on 3rd and 4th downs to extend drives,never spyed Josh and just let him run around and make plays

Also something I didn’t notice until Chris Simms pointed it out is they had 3 DTs on the field in the 4th quarter when we knew Buffalo wasn’t gonna run it

These nikkas were gassed and on the ground damn near every play

Madibuike,Travis Jones,and Brodrick Washington shouldn’t be on the field at the same time in obvious passing situations

There was a drive in the 4th quarter when we kept rushing 4 and the 4 players were Van Noy,Beaks,Jones,and Washington

You can’t expect those 4 to get pressure on Josh

where was Mike Green,Oweh,or even Ojabo

gotta have some speed out there so hes doesn’t have all day to throw the ball

blitz a CB or something

Put Trent Simpson out there and blitz him

they just gave Josh too much time and they didn’t have anyone with speed out there the run him down when he scrambled

any halfway decent QB will shred a soft zone if you can’t get any pressure

 

[STAN JONES]

this is what I was talking about last night

one team put the ball in their QBs hands and asked him to win the game

the other took the ball out their QBs hands and asked the rest of the team not to lose the game

 

[LinusCaldwell]

for the support

 

[Mantis Toboggan M.D.]

I don’t think Orr makes it through the season

a couple more performances like this and Harbs gonna toss him under the bus

after next week game against the browns we play the Lions,Chiefs,Texans,Rams,and then have a bye

depending on how those 4 games go for the defense I can see Orr getting fired before the bye

I’ll be shocked if he’s still here beyond Halloween. I hate the idea of Harbaugh being allowed to throw another assistant under the bus, but Orr has been WOAT status since his first week on the job. He’s basically had 5-6 good games and 9-11 horrible games in the role while his defense doesn’t seem to really have any defining strengths despite McDonald the year prior leading basically the same group of guys to a #1 across the board season. I think through the first 10 games last year Allen was the only quarterback who didn’t have his best game of the season against them. Can’t keep a guy whose group plays like that.

 

[mr heyzel]

This has been as bad a defensive showing as I can remember from this team

They need to be on the phone with clowney asap

 

[Blessings]

after rewatching the game if the defense just makes 1 play we win

they let these nikkas convert several 3rd & longs and 4th down plays

they dropped picks,let Buffalo catch multiple tipped passes,got penalties on 3rd and 4th downs to extend drives,never spyed Josh and just let him run around and make plays

Also something I didn’t notice until Chris Simms pointed it out is they had 3 DTs on the field in the 4th quarter when we knew Buffalo wasn’t gonna run it

These nikkas were gassed and on the ground damn near every play

Madibuike,Travis Jones,and Brodrick Washington shouldn’t be on the field at the same time in obvious passing situations

There was a drive in the 4th quarter when we kept rushing 4 and the 4 players were Van Noy,Beaks,Jones,and Washington

You can’t expect those 4 to get pressure on Josh

where was Mike Green,Oweh,or even Ojabo

gotta have some speed out there so hes doesn’t have all day to throw the ball

blitz a CB or something

Put Trent Simpson out there and blitz him

they just gave Josh too much time and they didn’t have anyone with speed out there the run him down when he scrambled

any halfway decent QB will shred a soft zone if you can’t get any pressure

That’s the biggest issue. We have a Zack Orr problem. From scheme to make sure players are setup to make players and personnel to ensure the right guys are on the field.

No matter how many wins, good the team, even with a huge lead in the playoffs/Super Bowl we can never trust the Ravens to win.

Now that the Ravens collapse in week 1; the regular season matters again for the national media lol.

 

[Clark Wayne]

If Orr gets fired do they just elevate Pagano?

Cleveland won’t be an easy win even though it should be.

 

[Mantis Toboggan M.D.]

They need to be on the phone with clowney asap

That’s the biggest issue. We have a Zack Orr problem. From scheme to make sure players are setup to make players and personnel to ensure the right guys are on the field.

No matter how many wins, good the team, even with a huge lead in the playoffs/Super Bowl we can never trust the Ravens to win.

Now that the Ravens collapse in week 1; the regular season matters again for the national media lol.

No amount of talent will make up for a lack of coaching. If the coaches can’t figure out how to put anyone in position to win games, then they’re screwed.

 

[STAN JONES]

If Orr gets fired do they just elevate Pagano?

they pretty much have to

the entire staff on defense is either young or inexperienced outside of Pagano

the good coaches we had on defense like Dennard Wilson and Anthony Weaver left after they were passed over for Orr

 

[Guile]

Not watching anymore games until playoffs, lmao. Will keep up with scores. Lamar and Henry will run over bad and okay teams but good teams with fight and coaching will always be 50/50 toss ups.