The absence of Funk's influence is a big reason for the disconnect between old and new Hip Hop.

[DoubleClutch]

Are you unfamiliar with Atlanta and Memphis based producers?

Not as much as I should be. I know threres that southern influence but whats the root. But what inspired these Atlanta/Memphis producers?

 

[Poitier]

Repetitive flabby oldhead threads not stopping shyt so stay mad.

 

[John Hull]

The Youth have made something for them not you flabby old heads.

Get over it already.

was waiting for this post lol

 

[tuckgod]

Repetitive flabby oldhead threads not stopping shyt so stay mad.

 

[IllmaticDelta]

That’s it actually

Older rap took from black sources

This new school are taking from white ones.

Rap has lost its soul

This is a way overstated talking point. Even in the 70's and 80's, dj's were spinning records from white sources (planet rock is the result of this). The real difference in older rap and modern rap is that the newer version isn't as record--> to sampler dominated but rather based on original musical idea or the sound is heavily rooted in the keyboards/drum machines . It's the difference between







and

 

[IllmaticDelta]

Breh....

I can’t even watch these nikkas live.

I’ve seen Freddie Gibbs, Schoolboy Q, and Big Krit on stage jumping around on that white boy shyt looking goofy as fukk.

Hard to take them seriously after watching them like that.

I blame Kanye’s fakkit ass.

 

[Blackout]

This is a way overstated talking point. Even in the 70's and 80's, dj's were spinning records from white sources (planet rock is the result of this). The real difference in older rap and modern rap is that the newer version isn't as record--> to sampler dominated but rather based on original musical idea or the sound is heavily rooted in the keyboards/drum machines . It's the difference between







and

But there was a balance and even push toward black sources more back then.

White sources are way more popular these days than black ones. Plus the white sources needed to have a touch of soul to be respected like Hal and Oates.

Which alll ties back to the main issue of black power leaving rap.

 

[Knucklehead]

Any good funk artists going right now?
Anderson .Paak and Thundercat are both high on my playlists....

 

[tuckgod]

This is a way overstated talking point. Even in the 70's and 80's, dj's were spinning records from white sources (planet rock is the result of this).

That is true, but the white acts they sampled had to be funky.

Bambaataa said it himself almost verbatim.

nikkas wasn’t sampling Simon & Garfinkle and Barry Manilow.

 

[tuckgod]

Any good funk artists going right now?
Anderson .Paak and Thundercat are both high on my playlists....

Bruno Mars

Edit: check out Dam Funk if you ain’t already up on him

 

[IllmaticDelta]

That is true, but the white acts they sampled had to be funky.

Bambaataa said it himself almost verbatim.

nikkas wasn’t sampling Simon & Garfinkle and Barry Manilow.

c'mon...de la soul was sampling shyt like this

"Transmitting Live From Mars," by De La Soul (1989) vs. "You Showed Me," by the Turtles (written by Roger McGuinn, Gene Clark) (1969)

The Case: The hip-hop collective De La Soul built their masterpiece 3 Feet High and Rising from a vast library of samples spanning genres, languages and decades. At a time when sampling was relatively new (and relatively lawless), not all of the snippets received the proper clearance. Among these was a 12-second segment from the Turtles' 1969 song "You Showed Me," used on the interlude skit "Transmitting Live From Mars." Former Turtles Howard Kaylan and Mark Volman leveled a $2.5 million lawsuit at Prince Paul and company in 1991. "Sampling is just a longer term for theft," Volman told the L.A. Times. "Anybody who can honesty say sampling is some sort of creativity has never done anything creative." Ironically, the song was written by none of the Turtles, but instead by Roger McGuinn and Gene Clark of the Byrds.

Songs on Trial: 12 Landmark Music Copyright Cases

 

[L. Deezy]

Breh....

I can’t even watch these nikkas live.

I’ve seen Freddie Gibbs, Schoolboy Q, and Big Krit on stage jumping around on that white boy shyt looking goofy as fukk.

Hard to take them seriously after watching them like that.

I blame Kanye’s fakkit ass.

Lol.. Ive seen a few. I dont really mind the energy they actually bring to the stage. I get it. The crowds be so into it. Its the only props I really give them.

Meth and Red kinda started their movement tho

 

[IllmaticDelta]

But there was a balance and even push toward black sources more back then.

White sources are way more popular these days than black ones. Plus the white sources needed to have a touch of soul to be respected like Hal and Oates.

Which alll ties back to the main issue of black power leaving rap.

not true at all

 

[tuckgod]

I’m not talking about slam dancing, I’m talking about that jumping up and down in place, fall walking around the stage dope fiend lookin shyt indie rock nikkas do and Kanye bought to hip hop.

You and your butt buddy ain’t derailing this thread breh.

Give up.

 

[tuckgod]

c'mon...de la soul was sampling shyt like this





Songs on Trial: 12 Landmark Music Copyright Cases

...and De La Soul had to kill themselves on the next album.