The absence of Funk's influence is a big reason for the disconnect between old and new Hip Hop.

[010101]

Nah. If it's something different let's call it what it is.

every song is different

personally i just listen to what i feel

i actually dislike when motherfukkers try and hand out rulebooks as to how what music should be

it's a form of expression driven by individuals doing as they feel

they consider being true to that feeling before being true to outside ideas or opinions

if you feel it should be another way then make your own music or stick to what fits the parameters you set

simple right¿

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[Poitier]

Flabby nikkas with another day of illusory superiority and pining for their youth? how unfortunate

 

[Blackout]

Sampling "anything" was the norm, and I stand by that claim...I didn't once tally if most of those "anythings" were black,
because I think that's (1) splitting hairs and (2) that's probably a side effect of the music they had the most access to.

Most tracks that got hot came from black sources.

Those anything ELSE other than black sampled tracks wasn’t popular except for a few exceptions.

 

[O.Red]

This thread

shyt shaping up like the blues are the roots thread

 

[Taadow]

Most tracks that got hot came from black sources.

Those anything ELSE other than black sampled tracks wasn’t popular except for a few exceptions.

So what?




I mean really, so the fucc what?





They were sampling stuff then. They aren't sampling anything hardly now.
The sampling itself was the main move. Nobody gave a fucc for the most part where the sample came from unless it was dope.
I say this as a person who used to search for the originals - nobody in my circles gave a fucc about that but me.

All that other chit you talmbat is minutia.

 

[Techniec]

i don't think it's funk, i just think it's a reflection of kids who grew up with parents that grew up on rap. if you were born 70's-early 90's, you may listen to rap, but your parents music was soul/disco/funk/r&b from the 50's-80's, but kids born mid 90's and later were likely born to parents whose music was rap, i think that created a whole different foundation for these kids, add to the fact they're the generation to grow up in schools without music programs, they just don't have the same type of foundation and exposure other generations had.

100%

 

[Blackout]

So what?

I mean really, so the fucc what?


They were sampling stuff then. They aren't sampling anything hardly now.
The sampling itself was the main move. Nobody gave a fucc for the most part where the sample came from unless it was dope.
I say this as a person who used to search for the originals - nobody in my circles gave a fucc about that but me.

All that other chit you talmbat is minutia.

Looking at the top records that coincidently had black sources you really trying to claim that?

 

[mobbinfms]

every song is different

personally i just listen to what i feel

i actually dislike when motherfukkers try and hand out rulebooks as to how what music should be

it's a form of expression driven by individuals doing as they feel

they consider being true to that feeling before being true to outside ideas or opinions

if you feel it should be another way then make yourniwn music or stick to what fits the parameters you set

simple right¿

*

If, theoretically, you would prefer a world where there were no genres, just songs and expressions of musical feelings, I can rock with that. But that's not the world we live in.
Since we have genres. Let's enforce them.
And I don't want hip hop to end up sounding like Garth Brooks.

 

[Why-Fi]

it’s more the nature of the industry...which covers the way sampling has changed in both ways (sampling less or sampling from wider source pools). funk is not absent. anecdotally, my son and most of his friends do music and the shyt is good (for what it is). even with me being there I’m always surprised by how much these kids know about music sometimes even older than I am. and they can replicate the golden age sound just as easily as they do their own shyt, heard it myself...BUT they will tell you quick that they can’t make money off of it...

 

[Taadow]

Looking at the top records that coincidently had black sources you really trying to claim that?

How many people you know that was checkin' for the originals of the samples?

 

[Blackout]

How many people you know that was checkin' for the originals of the samples?

They was running from nonblack sounds and influences

Ask Tech N9ne

 

[Taadow]

They was running from nonblack sounds and influences

Ask Tech N9ne

What that got to do with what I asked you?


I asked you how many people you knew (artists or fans) was checkin' for the originals of samples?
Who you know that was reading liner notes for that and whatnot?

 

[Buckeye Fever]

These beats today are GARBAGE for the most part

 

[Blackout]

What that got to do with what I asked you?


I asked you how many people you knew (artists or fans) was checkin' for the originals of samples?
Who you know that was reading liner notes for that and whatnot?

What you asked me is your attempt to change the subject.

Doesn’t matter who did that or not because it’s telling by ear which why those non black sources you mention had to hide what they sampled from by converting it up when they took from nonblack sources.

 

[tuckgod]

I fukk with everybody on both sides of this argument though

Funny thing is, it isn’t an argument.

I’m theorizing that the absence of funk’s influence may be why older heads can’t fukk with the newer shyt like that, and there’s 2-3 nikkas in here dap fishing and failing.