The average business owner makes around 60k a year.

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I absolutely can argue what you said but you routinely make silly statements about finances/COL so you got it.

Y'all just love trying to shyt on someone's goals. And everytime theres zero constructive criticism
and valuable input in going the right direction. That path is way better than a LLC.

Countess people have used their regular income to buy a house whether it be single/duplex/triplex, then rinse and repeatedly stacking more houses
 

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People on social media are acting like you can ball out and go on vacations whenever you want with an LLC.
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Im content making more than 60k working a 9-5 for @Another Man.:dame:
At 60k you are making more than the avg HOUSEHOLD in America.

nikkas can’t take trips off that? You’d rather work for another man and have to ask him for days off to take the trip in the first place?

Y’all crazy as hell. Ain’t a job in the world I’d keep if I could make the same money working for myself, doing what I love
 

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Yup and running a small business isnt some come in at 9 and leave at 5 shyt. You are working all day and even when you are not something always comes up its literally no days off. If you dont love what you are doing that is a very rough ask for the average person.
The way y’all just bullshyt and make up stuff. Do you know if you drive trucks, you can get your own truck, get an llc and be back on the road working the same hours? Do you go into stores and always see the boss there? They don’t have a manager or store manager or supervisor there? Nobody can ring up 5 shirts without needing the top dog owner daily?

Fact is, y’all trying to place a big huge blanket on business ownership when there’s millions of types of businesses with varying degrees of work needed. This also varies by how long you been doing it, your delegations to your team, etc etc


But to sit here and say “you got a business so you can go on vacation, can’t ever be off, work 80 hours and it’s easier to work whatever blanket job that pays the same exact money.”


No. No it doesn’t work like that. There’s motheruckers with a business who roll over and check their Etsy once a week and they make 100k in sales. Whole POD systems on full automation. Ask me how I know…. There’s businesses without physical stores. Hell brooklynzon been running the coli for 8 years and I’m not sure he did 40 hours of work on this thing in that entire period of time. All he gotta do is slap on an llc to it and he’s a business owner correct? Does he need to check the site everyday for these ads to pay him?
 

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Im in a similar situation but how are you managing to write off 100% of the income?

Maybe im not being aggressive enough with my deductions.
These companies like Amazon, Airbnb and Uber STILL operate at a loss

14 Famous Companies That Aren’t Profitable


So yes they make a lot of money, but after all the deductions and spending, they say they don’t actually make any money.

Well it’s the same concept. If I write down I make 60k for my clothing business, then I need to write down how I also lost 70k. And you are a business so everything operates like a business. I’ll do some simple ones….

If you had to drive your car to deliver packages at work, wouldn’t the company owe you compensation for mileage? Well aren’t you dropping packages off and picking up materials for your business? That’s a standard deduction of I believe 6,000 or so right there. Using your personal vehicle for business.


I go on trips. So guess what. I write off my tickets, my meals, my Ubers, my hotel, everything. How? Take some clothes with me, give some out, take some flicks… now it was a work trip, I did photoshoots, I gave away promo clothes, I had meals, rental, hotel paid for just like I would if a 9-5 sent me on a business trip. Except they compensate you. Well your llc didn’t compensate you. So that’s a business expense.

I can also buy clothes for myself. Samples. It’s why rappers get to write off chains as promotional items if they say the label name or artist name (as the artist is a private contractor). It’s why labels call rapper tax write offs. Cause they lll give them a fake budget and write all types of shyt off around his name, but never invest the real money in him.



And yes you need receipts. Yes you can bend a dinner date into a business meeting and the IRS isn’t hunting down ruby tuesdays to see if you discussed business that night (all you have to do for it to be a business meeting.) and yes if you keep doing this or do some crazy shyt, they will come knocking.

But again. It’s not illegal. In fact, if the irs thinks you post too big a loss for too many years, they’ll shyt your business down and label it a hobby. But it’s no charge unless you flat out lying. But then if they shut you down, like trump, just open another one and reset the clock.


it’s the america way. How you think the rich get these “loopholes”. Ain’t nothing much but looping up some bullshyt losses and making everything you do, somehow apart of the business
 

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Working a 9 to 5, becoming good at it, and then starting your own business is too much work and too hard. Why do all that when you can a LLC?

I’m talking about nikkas who have no education and no work history talking about being a CEO AND BOSS

I have no problem with a brother or sister working 9 to 5 for a year or more stacking up money and studying the business they want to start a LLC with

However, u got latasha and willie with no type of education or skills talking about getting them a LLC with no plan or finances..

We have more of those types talking about CEO AND BOSS positions than you have regular folks who working 9-5 and able to open they own LLC
 

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People on social media are acting like you can ball out and go on vacations whenever you want with an LLC.
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Im content making more than 60k working a 9-5 for @Another Man.:dame:
:pachaha: You know that's after write offs right? Business owners get taxed after their expenses while you get taxed before. You can also use the write offs to off set income from a regular 9 to 5. In addition, if you are paying yourself regularly you likely you have an S-corp and taking rest out via asset loans or taking it out after a year and a day so you only have to pay capital gains taxes.

:skip: You should educate yourself instead of trying to throw shade. What you don't know about business is vast.
 

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This is nonsense. It's actually the opposite. First If you have a business you are likely working much more than a typical 9 to 5 and 40 hours. On top of that you are paying for your own health insurance and benefits out of pocket. You have no paid vacation days or sick days so if you dont work you dont eat. No 401k match etc. All those benefits a typical corporate job can provide add up.

There are multiple small business models...and you don’t even have to quit your job to have a small business.
 

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These companies like Amazon, Airbnb and Uber STILL operate at a loss

14 Famous Companies That Aren’t Profitable


So yes they make a lot of money, but after all the deductions and spending, they say they don’t actually make any money.

Well it’s the same concept. If I write down I make 60k for my clothing business, then I need to write down how I also lost 70k. And you are a business so everything operates like a business. I’ll do some simple ones….

If you had to drive your car to deliver packages at work, wouldn’t the company owe you compensation for mileage? Well aren’t you dropping packages off and picking up materials for your business? That’s a standard deduction of I believe 6,000 or so right there. Using your personal vehicle for business.


I go on trips. So guess what. I write off my tickets, my meals, my Ubers, my hotel, everything. How? Take some clothes with me, give some out, take some flicks… now it was a work trip, I did photoshoots, I gave away promo clothes, I had meals, rental, hotel paid for just like I would if a 9-5 sent me on a business trip. Except they compensate you. Well your llc didn’t compensate you. So that’s a business expense.

I can also buy clothes for myself. Samples. It’s why rappers get to write off chains as promotional items if they say the label name or artist name (as the artist is a private contractor). It’s why labels call rapper tax write offs. Cause they lll give them a fake budget and write all types of shyt off around his name, but never invest the real money in him.



And yes you need receipts. Yes you can bend a dinner date into a business meeting and the IRS isn’t hunting down ruby tuesdays to see if you discussed business that night (all you have to do for it to be a business meeting.) and yes if you keep doing this or do some crazy shyt, they will come knocking.

But again. It’s not illegal. In fact, if the irs thinks you post too big a loss for too many years, they’ll shyt your business down and label it a hobby. But it’s no charge unless you flat out lying. But then if they shut you down, like trump, just open another one and reset the clock.


it’s the america way. How you think the rich get these “loopholes”. Ain’t nothing much but looping up some bullshyt losses and making everything you do, somehow apart of the business


10000% Facts. Among other things, this country was built on cooked books.
 

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I can see why the average person is broke. The lack of understanding how money and business work in this thread is amazing. And yes you can operate your business at a loss if it's a llc/corporation. You can't do it for more than 3 years as a solo proprietor. Amazon did it for what 10/15 years? Lol They operate under the same tax code as you.

Let me create an simplified example for the slow people in the back.

Let's say you own an apartment complex.
The complex has 20 units. Each unit could generate $1000 a month but only half are occupied.

So you are generating 10k a month. But because you are a business owner you get to write off the other empty units at a loss.

Revenue 10k
Unoccupied unit loss -10k
Tax burden 0

On paper it looks like you didn't make a dime but you are actually taking home 120k a year.

If the same person, made 120k at a 9 to 5 their take home would be around 85k.

Those dinky ass people you follow on the internet don't even scratch the service of what business is. Ya'll gotta smarten up.

There are so many legal ways you can freak this game its unreal.
 

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At 60k you are making more than the avg HOUSEHOLD in America.

nikkas can’t take trips off that? You’d rather work for another man and have to ask him for days off to take the trip in the first place?

Y’all crazy as hell. Ain’t a job in the world I’d keep if I could make the same money working for myself, doing what I love

The main theme of being a business owner is you can control what you make.

If your job as a good month you get paid the same. And if it does bad enough, you might get laid off.


The tax code favors businesses.
 

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At 60k you are making more than the avg HOUSEHOLD in America.

nikkas can’t take trips off that? You’d rather work for another man and have to ask him for days off to take the trip in the first place?

Y’all crazy as hell. Ain’t a job in the world I’d keep if I could make the same money working for myself, doing what I love

Not as many trips as the people on social media act like you can.
Yes, because I have PTO and they always clear it with a 4 week notice.
I already make more than that working a 9–5.
You’re assuming all 9-5 jobs suck.
 

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Y'all just love trying to shyt on someone's goals. And everytime theres zero constructive criticism
and valuable input in going the right direction. That path is way better than a LLC.

Countess people have used their regular income to buy a house whether it be single/duplex/triplex, then rinse and repeatedly stacking more houses
Aight
 
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