Let's keep it funky all you guys shilling for the Big Tymers don't have a real leg to stand on knowing good and well neither Birdman nor Baby were any good on the mic. I'm not saying Eric and Parrish were top grade lyricists but they were more than competent on the mic when push came to shove and did so in an era where you were tested on a regular basis. Furthermore we basically have shown in multiple threads how Strictly Business productionwise helped set the template for G-Funk and in turn Southern production. You can't be a derivative product and be superior to the originators. If you prefer the Big Tymers or identify with them more fair enough but in no way, shape, form or metric, aside from sales can you say the Big Tymers were the better group.