The biggest theft in history? Conspiracy??

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This may have been posted before...but still an interesting watch.




and for those with ADD here is shorter version



I recommend watching the full video, it gets more in depth, but regardless, still something that is good to watch.
 

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It's capitalism- the Fed never exists in a just society
 

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Sad but capitalism unchecked is not good. Those people did not need loans (my fam included) and banks didn't even verify stated income. So in essence someone could state they made 150K but only made 50K and no one cared. Greedy consumers and bank quotas. Can't blame the Fed, blame regulations.
 

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Sad but capitalism unchecked is not good. Those people did not need loans (my fam included) and banks didn't even verify stated income. So in essence someone could state they made 150K but only made 50K and no one cared. Greedy consumers and bank quotas. Can't blame the Fed, blame regulations.
:dwillhuh:

its exactly what they wanted... "Oh just let us turn a blind eye because its best for you"...LOL
 

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its exactly what they wanted... "Oh just let us turn a blind eye because its best for you"...LOL
Who is "they". Did "they" force that shyt aunt/uncle, who can barely pay their rent on time, go out and get a subprime mortgage and credit cards? Poor decision making by adults who behave as children have locked the next generation and unborn into debt. Work hard, save your money to buy a house cash and IF you finance pay 25% down for an affordable but realistic mortgage (my dad does not believe in financing, if you can't pay it off in 3-6 months don't get it).

Stay with relatives for a few years throw them some light bill money/rent money and stack for your own home or room with someone. How it was done in the past.
 

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Who is "they". Did "they" force that shyt aunt/uncle, who can barely pay their rent on time, go out and get a subprime mortgage and credit cards? Poor decision making by adults who behave as children have locked the next generation and unborn into debt. Work hard, save your money to buy a house cash and IF you finance pay 25% down for an affordable but realistic mortgage (my dad does not believe in financing, if you can't pay it off in 3-6 months don't get it).

Stay with relatives for a few years throw them some light bill money/rent money and stack for your own home or room with someone. How it was done in the past.
stop talking like I'm absolving personal responsibility

you are looking at things from such a small and narrow view. this isn't even just about ppl that can't afford these loans its about EVERYONE. even the ppl that are paying these loans....

the money is coming from a private company charging interest to banks and to us then taking the money back to private owners.

how is that fair and just?


then...when they fukk up THEY get the bail outs and everyone else is told to fukk off

how is that fair and just?
 

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stop talking like I'm absolving personal responsibility

you are looking at things from such a small and narrow view. this isn't even just about ppl that can't afford these loans its about EVERYONE. even the ppl that are paying these loans....

the money is coming from a private company charging interest to banks and to us then taking the money back to private owners.

how is that fair and just?


then...when they fukk up THEY get the bail outs and everyone else is told to fukk off

how is that fair and just?

Banks are federally protected which is why they should be properly regulated. And what you explaining is how lending typically works, since the days of goldsmiths of Europe providing receipts to the wealthy for their deposits. And interest rates correlate to inflation.

There were once caps on interest rates that would regulate finance. From my understanding, if the Fed hiked rates to the legal limits, the system would stop. After interest-rate decontrol, buyers and borrowers are willing to pay anything(people for the most part are ignorant, greedy, gullible or desperate) but investors would refuse to provide more money as they know their returns were artificially depressed by government caps/interest limits. So an investor who has money in a regulated account drawing little interest, would move their money to another one, unregulated with a higher return. As the Fed heightened interest rates and the restricted money supply, thousands of investors withdrew money and shut down the system taking money from savings and loans (literally many making a run on the bank and transferring money offshore). Savings and loans can't make new mortgages so the housing industry is hemmed up and shuts down.

All this can be avoided if banks provided loans based on credit worthiness instead of finagling stuff like stated-income loans that were not properly underwritten in replace of Qualified Mortgages and The Ability to Repay loans in addition to other reforms. We will see what the Trump administration does but looks like a Republican-ran Congress is going to de-regulate which is why stocks are shooting up.
 

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Banks are federally protected which is why they should be properly regulated. And what you explaining is how lending typically works, since the days of goldsmiths of Europe providing receipts to the wealthy for their deposits. And interest rates correlate to inflation.

There were once caps on interest rates that would regulate finance. From my understanding, if the Fed hiked rates to the legal limits, the system would stop. After interest-rate decontrol, buyers and borrowers are willing to pay anything(people for the most part are ignorant, greedy, gullible or desperate) but investors would refuse to provide more money as they know their returns were artificially depressed by government caps/interest limits. So an investor who has money in a regulated account drawing little interest, would move their money to another one, unregulated with a higher return. As the Fed heightened interest rates and the restricted money supply, thousands of investors withdrew money and shut down the system taking money from savings and loans (literally many making a run on the bank and transferring money offshore). Savings and loans can't make new mortgages so the housing industry is hemmed up and shuts down.

All this can be avoided if banks provided loans based on credit worthiness instead of finagling stuff like stated-income loans that were not properly underwritten in replace of Qualified Mortgages and The Ability to Repay loans in addition to other reforms. We will see what the Trump administration does but looks like a Republican-ran Congress is going to de-regulate which is why stocks are shooting up.
federally protected?

bruh do you realize that the federal reserve is private entity? that lends money to other private entities to lend to us for their own profit?


the federal reserve needs to be shut down....
 

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Anyone pointing fingers at the people who took out toxic mortgages and loans is missing the bigger picture. It's not an unfortunate circumstance, it's a rigged game.

Times are good money is high>people open businesses and purchase property>banks begin to raise interest on loans and begin to disqualify more people from obtaining one>less patronage for original businesses/less money in circulation/businesses make cutbacks/people lose the job or business that afforded the loan etc>bank collects what can no longer paid off.

An extremely simple way to concentrate the worlds wealth down to a select group.
federally protected?

bruh do you realize that the federal reserve is private entity? that lends money to other private entities to lend to us for their own profit?


the federal reserve needs to be shut down....
Most people are unaware of this important fact.
 

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Our entire government has been one big money/power grab since its inception. Because it spawned from a big money/power grab.

Get up on game.
 

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Is this one of those end the fed things ? If so, waste of time
 
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Sad but capitalism unchecked is not good. Those people did not need loans (my fam included) and banks didn't even verify stated income. So in essence someone could state they made 150K but only made 50K and no one cared. Greedy consumers and bank quotas. Can't blame the Fed, blame regulations.
The fed are the regulators in this case. If they wouldn't insure so many of these worthless loans it wouldn't be much of a problem.

Leave the banks to their own devices. If they wanna make bad loans let it be on their heads and their balance sheets.
 
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