The Bomb Didn't Beat Japan....Stalin Did - Aug 6, 1945

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I can't post the ENTIRE article because its 6 pages long. So I'm just gonna post a short paragraph. I strongly urge everyone to go check out the piece. Its a great read!

Viewed from the Japanese perspective, the most important day in that second week of August wasn't August 6 but August 9. That was the day that the Supreme Council met -- for the first time in the war -- to discuss unconditional surrender. The Supreme Council was a group of six top members of the government -- a sort of inner cabinet -- that effectively ruled Japan in 1945. Japan's leaders had not seriously considered surrendering prior to that day. Unconditional surrender (what the Allies were demanding) was a bitter pill to swallow. The United States and Great Britain were already convening war crimes trials in Europe. What if they decided to put the emperor -- who was believed to be divine -- on trial? What if they got rid of the emperor and changed the form of government entirely? Even though the situation was bad in the summer of 1945, the leaders of Japan were not willing to consider giving up their traditions, their beliefs, or their way of life. Until August 9. What could have happened that caused them to so suddenly and decisively change their minds? What made them sit down to seriously discuss surrender for the first time after 14 years of war?

http://www.foreignpolicy.com/articl...nuclear_world_war_ii?page=0,0&wpisrc=obinsite
 

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What? Most people in this country think the atomic bombs ended the Pacific Theatre and Hitler killing himself was the end of the European land war
Technically the atomic bombs did end the pacific theater. But I was referring to Hitler killing himself because he was too afrai of America's nuclear capability. I;ve literally never heard anyone think that.
 

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Technically the atomic bombs did end the pacific theater. But I was referring to Hitler killing himself because he was too afrai of America's nuclear capability. I;ve literally never heard anyone think that.

Oh word. Nevermind then. I always associated the European war to end when the Allies had D-Day and the Russians shyt on the Germans at Stalingrad. That's when it was all over for me at least.
 

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Japan's position in the war was totally fukked by the time the bomb got dropped. Russia was whooping they ass all over China while America was doing bombing raids on the Japanese homeland at will. Them Japs went too hard tho, they just had to bomb them cuz an invasion on the ground woulda saw a lot of troops killed.
 

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Oh word. Nevermind then. I always associated the European war to end when the Allies had D-Day and the Russians shyt on the Germans at Stalingrad. That's when it was all over for me at least.
word. Stalingrad was the decisive moment in Europe....and it took place long before D-Day. US involvement was really about carving out the poast-war world.

But alot of times when people try to devalue the US role by emphasizing the Soviet contribution (which was immense), they conveniently ignore the role of lend-lease.
 
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