The Bomb Didn't Beat Japan....Stalin Did - Aug 6, 1945

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lets calm down there buddy

inhumane is still inhumane...nobody should be excusing anybody's actions in '45

Japan was wrong. The US was wrong. That is the lesson we should always take away from war.
of course, but japan should have surrendered when the L was inevitable. and frankly, the US had no obligation to send more young men over there to die.

japan was no victim, ask china about that
 

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and for the record, the argument that killing japanese civilians saved american cilvilians is valid. because american soldiers were still "civilians". these were young men with families, not some motherfukkers plucked outta thin air with no purpose in life besides dying on those fukkin islands.

so for Japan to say yea you'll have to take our whole island and fight everyone on it, and for us to say :camby: and drop those bombs, isnt as inhumane as its made out to be
Do you really not know what civlian means?
 

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Do you really not know what civlian means?
no, i will not call the average 21 year old a solder" as a oppsed to a "civilian". those ddues who got laid out on normandy weree alll civilians imo/ they had their whole lives aheads of them

fukk a position that tries to take otherwise. fukk you
 

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France's use of nuclear weapons in Algeria.


:patrice:

I'm talking in a conflict, as a means to kill people. If you wanna talk about nuclear tests, then obviously we can add the USSR, Pakistan, India and them to the list.

The US is the only country in history to use nuclear bombs in a conflict. Twice.

bullshyt

and for the record, the argument that killing japanese civilians saved american cilvilians is valid. because american soldiers were still "civilians". these were young men with families, not some motherfukkers plucked outta thin air with no purpose in life besides dying on those fukkin islands.

so for Japan to say yea you'll have to take our whole island and fight everyone on it, and for us to say :camby: and drop those bombs, isnt as inhumane as its made out to be

http://consortiumnews.com/2014/08/06/the-enduring-myth-of-hiroshima/ (@TravexdaGod just saw you quoted me too)

And just to be sure I understand, american soldiers are poor "civilians" not to be killed, but it's ok to nuke japanese civilians?
 

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I'M NOTICING A LOT OF PRO-RUSSIA PROPAGANDA LATELY, BROTHER!

True, but at least part of this is true- the bombs were meant to intimidate the Russians more than they were meant to end the conflict in the Pacific theater, since that had already wrapped up and firebombing would have had an equal or greater effect.
 
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