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The Calvin Johnson rule
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I get why Calvin's was ruled incomplete. Its a stupid rule, but its the rule so i get it. But it is funny how Cruz's wasn't even debated. I was wondering the same shyt watching it last night. No challenge, not even the commentators thought twice about it.
R.E.N. Spells Ren
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How can one make a "football move" in the air? Megatron made more of football move by diving and extending for the goal line.
And the rule is NOT stupid. You should have to maintain possession when going to the ground as a part of the catch. These interpretations are stupid.
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R.E.N. Spells Ren
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Only difference was Cruz's elbow was on the ground while the ball crossed the line similar to a running back after the ball cross the line then if it's lost it doesn't matter.
His elbow doesn't matter. He was on the way to the ground whilst making the catch. He is supposed to maintain possession throughout.
It would only be similar to a running back if he made a "football move" before heading towards the ground
He landed, then twisted and reached for the endzone. When he caught the ball, his back was to the endzone. He had to turn & reach. I can see them interpreting that as a football move. At least that's the only difference I see in the 2 plays.
Johnson's catch, though he reached for the endzone had one less "move". The twist. Though I would interpret the reach as a football move.
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Now that Harlem said that, I'd add that to the differences. The elbow is a 3rd body part to touch the ground, before he reached out and loss control. So you have 2 feet, a twist, an elbow hitting, then the reach & loss of control.
On Johnson's play, after the 2 feet, the next thing to hit the ground was the ball and he immediately lost it.
Definitely differences between the plays.
R.E.N. Spells Ren
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Cruz doesn't have two feet, he has one foot.
But, again, that's irrelevant: if you're going to the ground while making a catch then you must maintain possession throughout.
This is true at the goal line, at the side line, or in the middle of the field.
Edit: and I'm not sure what rule you're referencing by even arguing three body parts hit the ground with Cruz....what difference does that make?
Watched it again. You're right.
Going to the ground in the process of making a catch... the process is possession and 2 feet. If you make a "football move", say a spin for example, then cross the goal line and lose the ball, that would be considered a touchdown.
A drastic example to make my point... If a WR caught a pass while off balance and took 4 stubling steps, hit the gound as he reached the ball across the goal line then lost control, it would be a TD. After the 3rd step, the catch is already made and the receiver is no longer in the process of when he hits the ground.
But like I said, I watched it again and it does appear that his 2nd foot never hit the ground. The elbow hits as he's going to the ground and he loses the ball. He was still in the process when going to the ground. Should've ben incomplete IMO.
I will now use this thread for bad calls against the Lions.
Here is a picture of Calvin. First drive of the series that led to a botch FG attempt. It should have never came to that. Here is Calvin getting tackled beyond the marker that was ruled not a first down. Start the youtube from 1:47 seconds to see the play ruled not a first down.
Here is a picture of Calvin. First drive of the series that led to a botch FG attempt. It should have never came to that. Here is Calvin getting tackled beyond the marker that was ruled not a first down. Start the youtube from 1:47 seconds to see the play ruled not a first down.