I am not a connoisseur of either dude's music but it seems to me like Joe is thoroughly outclassed in the cold war sparring shyt. Back To Back & 4PM in Calabasas >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>....>>>> Making a Murderer by pretty much any metric. It's not 2000, nikkas aint fukking with 6 minute diss songs. In n out, nothing but heat. GZA said it best- "too many songs, weak rhymes are mad long, make it brief son... half short and twice strong". Joey missed by a wide margin. Am I wrong?