The Clippers need CP3 more than The Heat need LeBron.. true or false?

well...

  • yea, true dat

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  • naw u wrong. LBJ is dat dude

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DaRock

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Thats with any team when you accustomed to playin a certain style. Especially when the offense goes through the best player most of the time. But that team going through training camps and practices w/o Lebron would still be champioship contenders with a health Dwade and same role players. Who knows if they could win but they would contend.

we can agree to disagree...but Spolestra hasn't shown me enough to draw up things to get those the role players involved the way the individual talents of Lebron and Dwade does....and defensively they wouldn't be as good...people forget that's where Miami separates themselves from a lot teams...their transition from defense to offense is off the charts and without Lebron that almost completely goes away...
 

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Yea im not trying to throw salt on Lebrons impact/greatness. But they couldn't attract free agents or good players with him so they damn sure aint gnna get players w/o him. Kyrie Irving good but he's no Lebron.

Same could be said about what happened to the Pelicans(:win:) when CP3 left but I'm just saying, nikkas went from top to bottom.:deadmanny:
 

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we can agree to disagree...but Spolestra hasn't shown me enough to draw up things to get those the role players involved the way the individual talents of Lebron and Dwade does....and defensively they wouldn't be as good...people forget that's where Miami separates themselves from a lot teams...their transition from defense to offense is off the charts and without Lebron that almost completely goes away...

I guess i agree if you want to say Lebron hides alot of Spolestra's deficiencies,therefore for lack of coaching they wouldnt be as good. Just Like Lebron hid Mike Brown's offensive deficiencies.
 

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I guess i agree if you want to say Lebron hides alot of Spolestra's deficiencies,therefore for lack of coaching they wouldnt be as good. Just Like Lebron hid Mike Brown's offensive deficiencies.

100% agree.....
 

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Same could be said about what happened to the Pelicans(:win:) when CP3 left but I'm just saying, nikkas went from top to bottom.:deadmanny:

Yea i get what your saying. I think another legitimate argument is whether the Heat wouldve won it all last year if they didnt have Bosh also :manny:. IDK i just think the Heat needs every piece they have cuz they have some wholes but they have great players so they can overcome tho.
 

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if boston never choked that playoff series which WAS A CHOKE the heat would be a joke amongst lebron one playoff series changed everything
 

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Yea i get what your saying. I think another legitimate argument is whether the Heat wouldve won it all last year if they didnt have Bosh also :manny:. IDK i just think the Heat needs every piece they have cuz they have some wholes but they have great players so they can overcome tho.

That shouldn't be an arguement...of course they needed Bosh to win it all.....just like they need Wade..and Lebron...this team is built around all 3 of them...obviously Lebron is the most important piece because of how they play...but without either 1 of the 3..they anit got a shot at winning it all....
 

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Clippers arent a playoff team with CP i think the Heat are still at worst a 6-7 seed without Bron...
 

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if boston never choked that playoff series which WAS A CHOKE the heat would be a joke amongst lebron one playoff series changed everything

...or was it the turning point in a great players' career...
 
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I don't think people realize how many of our deficiencies Lebron actually covers up. We have a deeply flawed roster. He's our best facilitator. He's our best rebounder. He's our best scorer. He's our best perimeter defender. He's probably our best interior defender.

The Heat are on pace to win something like 58 games, but we'd win 50-55 without Lebron? Come on, man. We'd squeak into the playoffs as a bottom 4 seed and wouldn't make it out of the 2nd round. Wade and Bosh have been inconsistent which is fine only because Lebron seems to bring it every single night, meaning you usually have at least 2 of the big 3 doing their thing in any given game. Without him, we'd be the type of squad to get blown out by the Bobcats one night, and then beat the Spurs the next and leave you scratching your head.
 

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Maybe Im Gonna Sound Like A Hater But I Dont See The Clips Winning A Championship With or Without CP3

Heat Can Win One With LeBron, But They Cant Without Him

So To Answer Your Question, False

The Clippers have a shot of reaching the Finals tho. :ld:
 

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The heat were a playoff team before Lebron. That's the main reason he was able to lead us to a chip and not the cavs. Clippers weren't a playoff team but now they are easily Blake just needs more experience.
 

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with a healthy Wade, this current Miami team would NOT win 50-55 games......they play small ball and it only works because of Lebron....Spoelstra is not a good enough coach to adjust without Lebron...their shooters wouldn't be getting as many open looks, Bosh isn't going to block to create offense and their defense and transition offense wouldn't be as good...

Exactly...so much of what they do hinges on Bron's all-around brilliance. Wade, while still a beast, is not what he was 3 or 4 years ago. Let's not forget that they didnt' even win 60 games in 2010 with a healthy and younger Wade and Bron and Bosh.
 
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