The Decline of Madden(Warning:This is sad and hard to watch)

[KidJSoul]

Too many things to list but:

Realistic foot planting and weight to stop, gliding and teleporting
Playbooks that reflect real life schemes especially defensively
The Oline needs major work
Weather having a real impact on the game and not just a visual thing
Better AI logic from play recognition to franchise scouting

Suction tackling - when running the ball, even if you run pass a good defensive player, they'll make you get sucked into him

Blocking A.I - especially on screen passes

fumble rate on mobile QBs that is much higher than real life

Tackling A.I on non controlled players (make them take intentionally bad angles to make good receivers/RBs look good)

basically, a lot of it has to do with scripted animations/lack of real time physics, AI. Along with the missing features from the PS2 era

The presentation is also a joke.

 

[CW99]

Suction tackling - when running the ball, even if you run pass a good defensive player, they'll make you get sucked into him

Blocking A.I - especially on screen passes

fumble rate on mobile QBs that is much higher than real life

Tackling A.I on non controlled players (make them take intentionally bad angles to make good receivers/RBs look good)

basically, a lot of it has to do with scripted animations/lack of real time physics, AI. Along with the missing features from the PS2 era

The presentation is also a joke.

I just got done saying this when I was playing 22 and the problem is it will be in 24 and was in 20.

Biggest pet peeve: receiver beats cb by 5 yards lead the receiver and CB gets speed boost and your WR slows down just to get into a useless animations

 

[Wild self]

Bring back NFL 2K franchise and give Madden competition that is desperately needed.

 

[KidJSoul]

I just got done saying this when I was playing 22 and the problem is it will be in 24 and was in 20.

Biggest pet peeve: receiver beats cb by 5 yards lead the receiver and CB gets speed boost and your WR slows down just to get into a useless animations

Yeah this shyt irks me too, they multiply the animation speed to unrealistic levels if they want a player to make a play

All goes back to being too animation based

 

[Jim Cornette]

I finally stopped buying it last year...

Pains me but fukk it this game sucks. Same bugs. Same cheese plays. Same everything. Just fukking sucks.

Haven't loved madden since like 11 or 12 if we're honest smhh

 

[#1 pick]

My gripe with 2k and AP is that they could've continued that game for the next several years especially with how loved the game is now. They could've went the Pro Evolution Soccer (now eFootball) route and added in a massive edit and option edit mode (transfer real teams and players onto the game).

They could do that but we all know the NFL will sue for infringement in a heartbeat.

 

[Joe Sixpack]

Bring back NFL 2K franchise and give Madden competition that is desperately needed.

I agree..

We need another game

 

[904]

I haven't played Madden in 6ish years.. 2K is trash too



I get that's this is a simulation and not an actual game but I still believe this is achievable.. They just refuse to not put out a game every year

 

[br82186]

ITS nothing in madden that look like real football. While 2k have signature moves and mannerisms

2k has both fanbases. madden does not that’s why 2k sell more.

2k has more features than just about any game. Madden tries to be like 2k and fail everytime

Not to mention, but there are a plethora of dedicated rosters creators on Reddit, Discord, YouTube, Operation Sports, and etc where they edit the roster to reflect the tendencies of the real players and you still have the modding community.

 

[br82186]

Suction tackling - when running the ball, even if you run pass a good defensive player, they'll make you get sucked into him

Blocking A.I - especially on screen passes

fumble rate on mobile QBs that is much higher than real life

Tackling A.I on non controlled players (make them take intentionally bad angles to make good receivers/RBs look good)

basically, a lot of it has to do with scripted animations/lack of real time physics, AI. Along with the missing features from the PS2 era

The presentation is also a joke.

That's the thing, the ground work was already laid from backbreaker with their tackling mechanics and AP 2k8's gameplay all EA had to do was incorporate that to Madden and we wouldn't have this conversation year in and year out.

 

[JoseLuisGotcha]

I don’t even play video games the last football game i played was like the first 2k when it came out like on dream cast or some shyt…


That being said this made me sad free 2k til it’s backwards

#nfldropea
#free2kheaintdonuffin

 

[#1 pick]

Madden 04 was the pinnacle of football gaming. Madden 05 and NFL 2k5 on PS2/Xbox was the greatest sporting battle with Fifa and some of those Pro Evo games in the Xbox 360 era.

Sadly, Madden stopped caring about the game and only caring about mircotransgressions. They put an arcade game that football stans who must get a football fix deal with to play a shyt game. Easily the worst of the AAA titles. 2k is a million times better. The Show is better. Fifa is better. This game is wack and it's been wack for ages.

 

[#1 pick]

ITS nothing in madden that look like real football. While 2k have signature moves and mannerisms

2k has both fanbases. madden does not that’s why 2k sell more.

2k has more features than just about any game. Madden tries to be like 2k and fail everytime

I understand some 2k players who love MyTeam and Myplayer don't love 2k23. For me as a Sim and a franchise mode guy that critical for me to even consistently play the game, 2k23 might be the greatest game in sports history. MyEra is the goat feature and I can merge into the new era and go beyond for many decades as well. Easily the goat game.

 

[blues_funk_reggae]

There was a time from about 2004-2008 where I was really into the Madden series. I used to love practice mode, create a team, and I think there was a feature where you could run drills with players to earn points (?) I remember with the QB you had to hit moving targets. I think there was a tackling drill where it was 1 vs 2, and you had to tackle the running back. It was a great time to be an NFL nerd.

edit: Found it, it was mini camp drills

 

[Womb Raider]

Nothing bout all madden homie. That’s basic shyt. Talking bout know what you doing and I’m talking bout playing real people. Nobody trying to play cpu franchises no more. shyts so boring.

Player movement solid, ai solid and same with animations.

nikka what


Madden animations are ass…they’ve been ass for generations at this point, tf?