The Downfall of HipHop began when...

[DANJ!]

Y'all are delusional.

And yes, I acknowledge that there are some young people who do have an interest in older music.

Matter fact, I was once a young person who was interested in older music.

That being said, the generation as whole will never put an era they weren't alive to experience over their own.

Just like we can acknowledge all the great older music but will always have a greater connection to OUR era.

I can tell a person how great it was for my mom to play Motown records for me when I was 4, and I loved a lot of 'em. But I can never tell 'em what it was like when they were out. But ask me about Ready to Die, 36 Chambers, Illmatic, Doggystyle, Chronic... shyt becomes photographic.

And sadly for the younger dudes, they totally missed that era. And even if they go back and catch it retro, or their uncle or whoever puts them on to it... they'll never FEEL that era. They'll only feel their own.

 

[keon]

The lack of impactful songs is another obvious sign of hiphops decline..in r&b, for example,it's songs that came out over 40 years ago thats known by the masses to this day (i.e what's goin on by marvin gaye). Hiphop has its own versions "of whats goin on" with songs like:

The Message

Paid In Full

Nuthin but a G thang

T.R.O.Y

Dear Mama

Fight The Power

Juicy

C.R.E.A.M

Crossroads

Ether

and we had plenty of party/club tracks in the mist of all these legendary songs as well..the only songs that would probably get remembered during this era IS club/party tracks, unfortunately.

 

[Mars]

1.Nas Nas,Nas. signing with Jay-z after beating him in a head to head battle.He should have finished Jay-z off.Nas not getting with Beyoncé when he had the opportunity.Imagine how much bigger Nas would be if he married Beyoncé ?

2.Def Jam signing Jay-z as label president.Jay-z suppressed many artist when he was president.He basically used his presidency at def jam to build rocnation.One of the first artist he signed was Rihanna.Jay-z was more focused on his own interest,instead of the interest of the record label.

3.Mainstrem Award shows recognition.This forced record labels to focus more on catchy radio songs to sell records instead of great rappers/lyricjst.This made it easier for garbage rappers to thrive.

4.Too many short cuts.Artist getting deals because of an image(drug dealer,gang banger) or a co-sign without having top tier talent.

5.Too many collaborations.Artist not developing and cultivating their own style.and building a fan base without working with the same 10-25 rappers on an album.

6.Too many label heads wanting the spotlight(Puffy,Suge knight,Birdman,Mater P,Irv Gotti,Dame Dash)

7.Too much singing on the albums.From r&b artist to the rappers themselves.

 

[DANJ!]

Yo said "Ether"... I'm done...

 

[keon]

Yo said "Ether"... I'm done...

Nas vs Jay at the time was hiphop's version of david and Goliath breh..

Jay was killing the game, the roc in general was holding shyt down as a record label, plus kanye was on fire on the production side as well..meanwhile Nas last album was Nastradamus,lol..

Ether signified arguably thee greatest come from behind,underdog battle rap victory in hiphop history..

 

[SchoolboyC]

Y'all are delusional.

And yes, I acknowledge that there are some young people who do have an interest in older music.

Matter fact, I was once a young person who was interested in older music.

That being said, the generation as whole will never put an era they weren't alive to experience over their own.

Just like we can acknowledge all the great older music but will always have a greater connection to OUR era.

I can tell a person how great it was for my mom to play Motown records for me when I was 4, and I loved a lot of 'em. But I can never tell 'em what it was like when they were out. But ask me about Ready to Die, 36 Chambers, Illmatic, Doggystyle, Chronic... shyt becomes photographic.

And sadly for the younger dudes, they totally missed that era. And even if they go back and catch it retro, or their uncle or whoever puts them on to it... they'll never FEEL that era. They'll only feel their own.

Yep. Some don't want to admit it but it's a cycle. 10-15 years from now once the people who grew up on 2000's rap get older they're gonna glorify the music they grew up on. They're gonna put Kanye, Wayne, 50, T.I., Ross, etc. on pedestals just like people who grew up on 90's rap feel about those that were prevalent in that decade.

I'm 26. And even though I listen to and enjoy older music I can't relate to it like someone like you who actually grew up on that era did. I was 5-6 years old when all those albums you named dropped. I mean yeah I was alive but I was just a little ass kid. I can't really relate to it like the music that dropped when I was a teenager to now.

 

[DANJ!]

Nas vs Jay at the time was hiphop's version of david and Goliath breh..

Jay was killing the game, the roc in general was holding shyt down as a record label, plus kanye was on fire on the production side as well..meanwhile Nas last album was Nastradamus,lol..

Ether signified arguably thee greatest come from behind,underdog battle rap victory in hiphop history..

No kiddin'... but you're gonna put that on tier with The Message, G Thang, Fight the Power, etc.? In terms of being a hip-hop equivalent to a "What's Going On" that has lived for like 40 years as an all-time great record?

Nah.

 

[The Emperor]

ringtone era...
Close thread

 

[mr. smoke weed]

Keep it 100. People have been complaining about hip-hop since it originated. We had a message board from as early as '91 linked on here where multiple heads were asking when hip hop died in the middle of a golden age! Around '94 Common made I Used To Love H.E.R
Every era will cater to those in the high school-college age range. So it depends when you grew up and when you started listening to hip hop.

 

[rapbeats]

who is admitting that?

you would be surprised i've heard quite a few of these dudes straight dry snitch on themselves. lol no lie. i could've sworn i heard J.cole say something similar in an interview not that long ago. if i could find it i would post it. These new rappers have admitted they know this aint the golden era. But maybe that doesnt mean its bad.th golden era never even were asked that question. they just kept putting out the great music they knew how. no pleas copped.

 

[☑︎#VoteDemocrat]

nikkas talking shyt about the South but the south is more hip-hop than anywhere else

 

[Insensitive]

Hip Hop died when anyone with an internet connection was able to download a production program, buy a mic and become a "rapper".

I'd argue that, that's a good thing.
Now there is no barrier of separation.
Anyone can go buy FL Studio and a guitar a digital interface and download some drum tracks and
they can have a "Rock Band".
Anyone can now buy FL Studio, download some old records, chop them up, throw down
some drums and they can make "Hip Hop" (though they can always make Hip Hop without
chopping a single sample...)
Anyone can now buy FL Studio, purchase a bunch of digital instruments and create
their own full blown pop production.

Now you don't need a million dollar studio and a $3000 workstation to make beats on.
There are guys on this very website as well as others with immense talent that would
likely never be able to make music if the barrier of entry was high.

 

[Big Boss]

 

[Piff Huxtable]

Mannie Fresh leaving Cash Money :mutecry:

 

[Hugs]

Essentially it focused more on the confrontational aspects of the genre, which I personally believe you could say spawn other negative outlets and mediums for the genre, sites like Mediafakeout and World Star Hip Hop for example. In which physical violence, rivalry and even death unfortunately became synonymous with Hip-Hop.

Through I can't front and act like I wasn't entertained by them.

Fair
but it was just a documentary tho