The End Of Beyond Black And White: Christelyn Karazin

[GiGi]

Christylyn is a charlatan who ripped off peoples work. You should know that but she was a fresh new younger face to the old BWE dinosaurs that were plodding around the internet.

Please read my posts below from this thread regarding Christelyn Karazin...

And I am aware of the BWE fiasco as well

I believe in Free Speech. This is America after all. I do not like what the Tommy Soto mayors of the world have to say but I would not pour any effort into silencing his voice. I am not a fan of Christelyn's but I do not like that she (and other black female bloggers) have been targeted by her main detractors. Based on many of the comments on that YT vid she will actually gain MORE support due to the fact that some have tried to censor her. She actually has a lot of black women AND white men who follow her so I'm sure this will give even more support from people who were indifferent but are now going to be supporters.

I really could care less about her site or Facebook page (as I have stated, I am not a fan of hers) but they have done this to other black female bloggers who have said NOTHING derogatory about black men or black people (bougie black girl being one of those bloggers). Its the idea that the voices of black women are being silenced. That is my main issue.

I have never been on her Facebook but I have seen her blog. And while I do agree that more black women should be open to relationships with non-black men I did not care for the some of the comments that were anti-black men/anti-black community. Tariq Nasheed also does a great disservice to black men by calling every black woman with whom he disagrees a "negro bed wench" while encouraging black men to date/marry out.
The good that both of these individuals could do is drowned out by the c00nery.

 

[Londilon]

She sounds dumb. If militant's hated black women then they wouldn't be militant. You can't be a militant and be pawgin. She doesn't know who removed her website, she just wants to take it out the group she hates the most.

 

[DrX]

these funky ass bedwenches aint shyt

 

[BlackFruitPunch]

People in here really don't understand how women think. Women respect power women respect control. The black woman has had a front seat for every one of the black man's failings for the last 500 years. They saw the white man and the Arab man come into our land and completely dominate us physically mentally and spiritually. They too became the victims of that domination because we failed to protect our land our women and our children. They became slaves and watched their children become slaves, and looked over to the leaders of our race only to see the men completely dominated and enslaved as well. Fast forward to the present and we haven't been able to build a place where our children and women can live safely and prosper. No one wants to follow that no one wants to be lead by a group of men that have been dominated for 500 years. It's going to take a lot more than a few black men doing well to make the black woman and child trust us again we need black lands and the vast majority of black men to do well.

 

[Poitier]

the Arab man come into our land and completely dominate us physically mentally and spiritually.

Arabs never came into West Africa.

 

[marcuz]

People in here really don't understand how women think. Women respect power women respect control. The black woman has had a front seat for every one of the black man's failings for the last 500 years. They saw the white man and the Arab man come into our land and completely dominate us physically mentally and spiritually. They too became the victims of that domination because we failed to protect our land our women and our children. They became slaves and watched their children become slaves, and looked over to the leaders of our race only to see the men completely dominated and enslaved as well. Fast forward to the present and we haven't been able to build a place where our children and women can live safely and prosper. No one wants to follow that no one wants to be lead by a group of men that have been dominated for 500 years. It's going to take a lot more than a few black men doing well to make the black woman and child trust us again we need black lands and the vast majority of black men to do well.

this would be a great argument if we were 500 yrs old. black males born in the 80s, 90s don't owe black women shyt. if they want to pretend we're the reason the black community is in poor shape, then fukk them.

 

[BlackFruitPunch]

this would be a great argument if we were 500 yrs old. black males born in the 80s, 90s don't owe black women shyt. if they want to pretend we're the reason the black community is in poor shape, then fukk them.

We're older than 500 years old. Life doesn't happen in a vacuum history has a huge effect on the present. Black men owe black women and children a safe land and an economy where they can prosper. A man provides those things.

 

[marcuz]

We're older than 500 years old. Life doesn't happen in a vacuum history has a huge effect on the present. Black men owe black women and children a safe land and an economy where they can prosper. A man provides those things.

no, we're not 500 yrs old. most of us are in our 20s and 30s. we're not the reason their fathers werent in the homes, we're not the scapegoat because the civil rights movement blundered, and we're certainly not at fault that africa got divided and conquered by europeans.

this is why successful blacks get on and flee from black neighborhoods. instead of treating blacks with good intentions like royalty, you idiots pretend they owe you something.

 

[BlackFruitPunch]

no, we're not 500 yrs old. most of us are in our 20s and 30s. we're not the reason their fathers werent in the homes, we're not the scapegoat because the civil rights movement blundered, and we're certainly not at fault that africa got divided and conquered by europeans.

this is why successful blacks get on and flee from black neighborhoods. instead of treating blacks with good intentions like royalty, you idiots pretend they owe you something.

Not only do you fail to understand the mind frame of women you fail to understand the role of a man. Let's talk about the present we can't even stop these devils from slaughtering our unarmed children in the street we're still being dominated. Women don't want to follow that women don't want to be lead by men with no power no control. Women don't respect victims.

 

[BlackFruitPunch]

Too many black men want to be put on a pedestal and ascend to that leadership role without doing anything to earn it. Black women look at us and see us doing poorly and being dominated and say shyt I can do that on my own. And if we don't owe them anything if we don't provide anything then what do they need us for? They're going to seek out the protectors and the providers because it's in a women's nature to do so. And if they can't find a protector and provider then they're going to attempt to protect and provide for themselves hence the independent mind frame.

 

[marcuz]

Not only do you fail to understand the mind frame of women you fail to understand the role of a man. Let's talk about the present we can't even stop these devils from slaughtering our unarmed children in the street we're still being dominated. Women don't want to follow that women don't want to be lead by men with no power no control. Women don't respect victims.

i understand the mindframe of a woman and the role of the man (regardless of their feminist bullshyt), but i also understand a black male born in 1990 has nothing to do with why women like Christelyn Karazin exist. infact, it's the exact opposite. they birth and raise the same type of men that grow into all these non-productive members of society they love to bytch about.
but i guess CK's solution to just "stop giving birth to black boys" would suit you as well, right?

and really, you're just full of it. you act like we're in a position to war with other races like that. dudes like you never have viable solutions on how to combat white supremacy.

 

[BlackFruitPunch]

i understand the mindframe of a woman and the role of the man (regardless of their feminist bullshyt), but i also understand a black male born in 1990 has nothing to do with why women like Christelyn Karazin exist. infact, it's the exact opposite. they birth and raise the same type of men that grow into all these non-productive members of society they love to bytch about.
but i guess CK's solution to just "stop giving birth to black boys" would suit you as well, right?

and really, you're just full of it. you act like we're in a position to war with other races like that. dudes like you never have viable solutions on how to combat white supremacy.

Who's abandoning these children though? If the women are raising them where are the men? Oh that's another thing that isn't out fault? Or own actions of abandoning our children isn't our fault. Our own actions of not being productive isn't our faults. You attempt to put black men in the role of children or animals where nothing is ever our fault. Women don't respect victims nobody does.

 

[marcuz]

Too many black men want to be put on a pedestal and ascend to that leadership role without doing anything to earn it. Black women look at us and see us doing poorly and being dominated and say shyt I can do that on my own. And if we don't owe them anything if we don't provide anything then what do they need us for? They're going to seek out the protectors and the providers because it's in a women's nature to do so. And if they can't find a protector and provider then they're going to attempt to protect and provide for themselves hence the independent mind frame.

they take the independent route first; inherented directly from their mothers by choosing to start single parent homes, then they seek the "provider and protector"

and i agree that black men being emasculated, enslaved, humiliated for centuries in front of our women has caused systemic lack of disrespect. sowhat's your solution to 500 yrs of domination?

 

[BlackFruitPunch]

they take the independent route first; inherented directly from their mothers by choosing to start single parent homes, then they seek the "provider and protector"

and i agree that black men being emasculated, enslaved, humiliated for centuries in front of our women has caused systemic lack of disrespect. sowhat's your solution to 500 yrs of domination?

How can one choose to have their mate abandon them? How can one choose to be a single parent?

 

[marcuz]

Who's abandoning these children though? If the women are raising them where are the men? Oh that's another thing that isn't out fault? Or own actions of abandoning our children isn't our fault. Our own actions of not being productive isn't our faults. You attempt to put black men in the role of children or animals where nothing is ever our fault. Women don't respect victims nobody does.

you're treating these women like their innocent victims though. the women CHOOSE to bring unwanted children into this world. they aren't seeking good protectors and providers, only for the guy to run out in the middle of the night. they're fukking dudes they know wont be there, only to be after the fact (while enjoying all the benefits of being a single mother)


and if it's already established there's so many downtrodden black males out there, why have several kids by the nikka? when will dudes like you actually hold them accountable?