The End of Liberal Zionism

[FAH1223]

It's lots of ethnicities that don't have a state. And if some ethnicities "had" a state, then it prolly makes the need for a Jewish state called Israel not as pressing. Perhaps instead Jews can have full legal rights to live anywhere in their holy land but in exchange they don't get to make a land that's holy to two other major religions exclusively their state. I mean, aside from extremists I don't think anyone thinks the Jews should leave that land. However it doesn't mean that they should monopolize the whole fukkin thing when its obviously been a flashpoint for conflict since forever. If both sides were honest about wanting peace, the nationalism of today would die and be replaced with one nation with no issue whether Jew or Arab.

[Scarface]I often wish that I could save everyone, but I'ma dreamer....[/Scarface]

Yup.

Jews always lived in Palestine.

That isn't the issue.

 

[dennis roadman]

jews need a state the same reason black americans (and others, but let's keep this in context) need one. it's been proven over and over that they'll be persecuted and sent to the wolves unless they have their own guns.

what netanyahu and them dont realize/care about is that they're granting those in gaza the same reasoning when it doesn't even have to be like that

 

[2Quik4UHoes]

jews need a state the same reason black americans (and others, but let's keep this in context) need one. it's been proven over and over that they'll be persecuted and sent to the wolves unless they have their own guns.

what netanyahu and them dont realize/care about is that they're granting those in gaza the same reasoning when it doesn't even have to be like that

I don't even all the way disagree with that. I just don't like how its an obsession to the point of controlling the complexion/demographics of the society itself. Jews should have the right to return and so should Palestinians. Do right by one another and create unity through understanding. It'd be crazy if both sides ended up being cool and having each others back defending the other.

 

[dennis roadman]

I don't even all the way disagree with that. I just don't like how its an obsession to the point of controlling the complexion/demographics of the society itself. Jews should have the right to return and so should Palestinians. Do right by one another and create unity through understanding. It'd be crazy if both sides ended up being cool and having each others back defending the other.

i agree with that. as they should, too. it's european powers that have left jews with no choice. it's why israelis give no fukks about taking money from Germany from now until eternity and scoff when EU countries try to dictate how they should handle themselves, when their forefathers created the need for zionism in the first place. the part the israeli right has wrong is looking at muslims as their enemy - Hamas are clowns and need to go, but jews, muslims, and christians were all palestinians decades ago.

 

[Truth200]

jews need a state the same reason black americans (and others, but let's keep this in context) need one. it's been proven over and over that they'll be persecuted and sent to the wolves unless they have their own guns.

what netanyahu and them dont realize/care about is that they're granting those in gaza the same reasoning when it doesn't even have to be like that