The End of the Black American Professional from Doctors to Lawyers and Beyond.

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Only thing I don’t rock with tone talks is the angle of Obama and Uber. The exploitation of employees in favor of gig workers was bound to happen
that argument was always a stretch but his bigger point about it covering up a wider lack was something few people ever addressed because they were blinded by the creation of a new type of job
 

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yeah thats about to be the future of all black lawyers because elite firms have no incentive to hire them
I got a potna that just announced he teamed up with his brehs to start their own firm :yeshrug:
 

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but as far as getting MDs for example, not much ever really changed except more Black women became MDs (now at parity with men)

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from Proportion of Black physicians in U.S. has changed little in 120 years, UCLA research finds

I don't have the same data for lawyers but it is probably similar with the exception of bw having a larger lead on bm.

At the end of the day, we are going to have to reinforce our institutions (the 3 current and 2 upcoming HBCU med schools as well as the several HBCU law schools) and Black professional organizations like the National Medical Association and National Bar Association will need to strengthen their pipelines and informal networks.



Gotta think out the box, our adversaries do.
I'm actually more curious about what was going on in 1940. That seems like a more fruitful target than affirmative action in the 70s.


I'm tempted to say wartime training, but I don't think drafts and military investment in black communities had occured that early for ww2. And the numbers strangely kept growing in the middle of the great depression when black people had significantly less resources than later years . :ohhh:



What witchcraft is this?:why:
 

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Didn't say black people. Black AMERICAN Professionals as in FBAs are declining. :mjpls: Of course, we shouldn't point this out. That would cause "division" :duck:
 

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I'm actually more curious about what was going on in 1940. That seems like a more fruitful target than affirmative action in the 70s.


I'm tempted to say wartime training, but I don't think drafts and military investment in black communities had occured that early for ww2. And the numbers strangely kept growing in the middle of the great depression when black people had significantly less resources than later years . :ohhh:



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Pearl Harbor was 1941. That tracks.
 

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This. Is. Some. shyt.

20 years from now, the black professional class graduating from college will be scanty.
Thanks for posting! Will check out later.

I’ve always liked how Tone was able to back up his points with the data.


We’re only 6 months past affirmative action. This is about to be a disaster.
 

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Didn't say black people. Black AMERICAN Professionals as in FBAs are declining. :mjpls: Of course, we shouldn't point this out. That would cause "division" :duck:

Funny how you c00ns find a way to make this about other black groups and not the cacs
 

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I am not sure if this sounds optimistic or cynical, but I think this analysis is overblown. Because to be honest, affirmative action never increased our numbers in the professional (medical, law) fields like it did corporate America.

Now it did get us into more prestigious institutions or firms or hospital programs and that helps since I have family members that benefited from that. But as far as getting MDs for example, not much ever really changed except more Black women became MDs (now at parity with men)

Percent+of+population+and+physicians_mid.jpg

from Proportion of Black physicians in U.S. has changed little in 120 years, UCLA research finds

I don't have the same data for lawyers but it is probably similar with the exception of bw having a larger lead on bm.

At the end of the day, we are going to have to reinforce our institutions (the 3 current and 2 upcoming HBCU med schools as well as the several HBCU law schools) and Black professional organizations like the National Medical Association and National Bar Association will need to strengthen their pipelines and informal networks.

I predict a larger percentage of the best and brightest Black students will be coming to HBCUs in the upcoming years so that will help us get them hip to game. There are also several med schools in the Caribbean people go to for lower MCAT scores and you still can pass Boards and practice. Hell, set up a med school ourselves down there, even in Cuba.

Gotta think out the box, our adversaries do.
The biggest issue will be black people going from medical school to residency. This is often a rate-limiting step. While those that attend school in the US often go on, yet some will still fall through the cracks and often times, at least in some black schools, based purely on things I noticed and discussed when interviewing for residency so not entirely scientific, those schools are less than helpful and may try and recruit non-black people for their more populous residency spots (namely internal medicine or family medicine). The latter may be due to lack of interest from domestic students but the former is one that most who want to specialize often go into since as a "default" option, it is still very good with a lot of flexibility. Funding of programs is an issue and even more, tied to federal funding and, at times, state statutes. This is what concerns me. And indeed, Caribbean schools will need to be utilized. Allopathic routes and so on should as well.

Another thing to bear in mind that many schools are incentivized to bring in other foreign students from spanish-speaking places. University of Texas, for example, has a program for this (I think they even had a pipeline for Mexican students into med school but I can't recall which one), as well as some others and speaking spanish will give you a considerable jump over other candidates in programs with large hispanic populations, namely the ones in the south come to mind like the ones in Texas, New Mexico and so on. I won't even go into how many black people in top positions (teachers and so on) at these schools are part of the reason why there is such a large hispanic presence now in these med schools (they tend to recruit hispanic students heavily - partly due to doing what they are told/following initiatives like hispanic serving institution, partly due to their own issues). For black people to succeed in this regard, they will have to capitalize more on the alternate routes.
 

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I'm actually more curious about what was going on in 1940. That seems like a more fruitful target than affirmative action in the 70s.


I'm tempted to say wartime training, but I don't think drafts and military investment in black communities had occured that early for ww2. And the numbers strangely kept growing in the middle of the great depression when black people had significantly less resources than later years . :ohhh:



What witchcraft is this?:why:
I think it was HBCUs like Howard and Meharry building out and getting funding. Also post WWI vets made HBCU numbers go up so some of those may be WWI vets.
 

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Start directing your people back to our own institutions so that we can start the rebuild process......
 
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