The Excuses, Flapping of Capes and Sympathizing for Kevin Durant Need to Stop

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The situation he finds himself now in, is all his own doing.

He wanted this.

He's had first-hand experience of what it's like to exist on a stage that is based entirely on the material of ISO, with no winning-culture and a lack of accountability. He went through it with Westbrook and OKC. It's the reason why he went to GS; he then experienced what it was like playing for a winning organization and enjoyed all the spoils that came with it. He experienced both ends of the spectrum, of what it takes to win and what doesn't.

Yet he grew tired of playing in that [winning] system, almost sabotaging a title run in the process because he wanted to do things his own way. It's why he left and wanted to create something for himself.

Where now he finds himself in the same situation in BK, that he was in OKC: alongside a sidekick who's answerable to only himself, living and dying by ISO, feeling what it's like to seemingly have control over your surroundings, and only realizing after it's late that you don't have any control, at all; with your fate left up to the Basketball Gods who made you the protagonist in your own cautionary tale (that you lived and barely survived the first time around).

He wanted this.

His career path has taken the course of being stuck in a burning building, only to be rescued and resuscitated after being on death's door, only to willingly run into another burning building.

Unfortunately for him, it doesn't look like anyone's coming to his rescue this time.
 

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People will be mad, deflect, or misconstrue what you're saying, but you're right op

KD wanted Kyrie, Nash, etc. He's an iso-hooper at heart, and criticized Kerr's system and doesn't like the pressure of being a leader. He likes to be hands off.

Has KD had bad luck? Yeah, sure. But he's also been in good situations. And the reality is that people have rewritten history to act like he was a Jordan-esque player held back by Westbrook, and act like he is a victim of the Nets, when neither of those is the case.

He's a case study in both poor leadership, and iso-ball as the focal point of an offense. There's a reason why he's only won in GSW.
 
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He didn't asked them to sign Steve Nash nor did he ask them to trade a true playmaker in Harden for a lemon. He asked for what was the 2020-2021 Nets prior to injury. That was ruined by injury, poor roster management, covid, flaking teammates etc. The only constant throughout this whole thing has been kd's play.
 

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This a terrible thread, Okc just didn't have the talent to compete in today's NBA.. just wanted to point that out. Team had 2 primary ball handlers, and a bunch of one dimensional non passing non shooting players surrounding two stars. It's why the current addition of okc is all about passing shooting creating at all 5 positions.
 
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Okc just didn't have the talent, this a terrible thread just wanted to point that out. Team had 2 ball handlers
They had enough talent to win in 2016, hence them going up 3-1 against the Warriors. They were evenly matched, hell, you could argue they had more talent. KD and Westbrook just failed to deliver in the remaining three games.
 

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They had enough talent to win in 2016, hence them going up 3-1 against the Warriors. They were evenly matched, hell, you could argue they had more talent. KD and Westbrook just failed to deliver in the remaining three games.
They didn't, which is why they lost. They had to rely on players performing at a ridiculously high usage to almost perfection with little mistakes. They had 6 usable nba players, with only 3 of them having the ability to pass or create. In the end this is why they were terrible by game 5 too much creating for 2 players.

Roberson can't create or pass
Ibaka can't create or pass
Adams cant create or pass
Waiters trash
Kanter unplayable against any defense especially pnr

They overperformed, this is not an optimal roster.
 

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This a terrible thread, Okc just didn't have the talent to compete in today's NBA.. just wanted to point that out. Team had 2 primary ball handlers, and a bunch of one dimensional non passing non shooting players surrounding two stars. It's why the current addition of okc is all about passing shooting creating at all 5 positions.

Huh?

2009-10, lost in the 1st round to the eventual champion Lakers.

10-11, Conf finals to eventual champion Mavericks

11-12, Finals to revenge tour Bron/Wade/Bosh Heat

12-13, semis to good Grizzlies team who were mainstay powerhouses out West.

13-14, conference to eventual champion Spurs.

KD was hurt 14-15

15-16, had a 3-1 lead on the 73-9 warriors in the conference finals and lost

It would be a lack of talent if they were getting bounced in the 1st round because it means they couldnt hang with anyone actually worth a shyt.

You're also acting like that era of the NBA had more than 2 primary ball handlers too :laff:

Lakers had Kobe

Dallas had Kidd/Terry

Heat had two between Bron and Wade

Spurs had Manu and Parker
 
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They didn't
They did.

I don't care for whatever excuses you're making for that squad choking. This thread isn't about that. It's about KD being in a situation not conducive to winning, leaving that situation, and then willingly going back to it. You're inadvertently agreeing with me by stating there was "too much creating for two players" - this is what he wanted.

After the Warriors lost to the Jazz in December, Steve Kerr said his team didn’t move the ball enough. Kevin Durant said Golden State passed too much.

That public disagreement sure looks more significant now. Not only did Durant leave for the Warriors, he cited offensive style as a reason.

Durant, via J.R. Moehringer of the Wall Street Journal:

“The motion offense we run in Golden State, it only works to a certain point,” he says. “We can totally rely on only our system for maybe the first two rounds. Then the next two rounds we’re going to have to mix in individual play. We’ve got to throw teams off, because they’re smarter in that round of playoffs. So now I had to dive into my bag, deep, to create stuff on my own, off the dribble, isos, pick-and-rolls, more so than let the offense create my points for me.” He wanted to go someplace where he’d be free to hone that sort of improvisational game throughout the regular season.
He wanted to be back in an environment that relied on 1-2 players creating everything, and not a motion-based one.
 
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Not you bashing one of the best players to ever pick up a basketball to provide cover fire for Ben Simmons :picard:

The Nets are bad because of Steve Nash and Ben Simmons, who are direct hires of Sean Marks, the worst GM in the NBA. Has nothing to do with KD or Kyrie.
They got swept in the first round when Ben wasn't even playing, with KD shytting the bed in almost every game. That's not on Ben nor Nash - whatever part they play in what's happening is irrelevant to the point of this thread. If you remove both of them from the equation, KD is still going to be stuck in the exact same situation.

I've told you this many a time, but you live in your own reality that is seperate to what everyone else is living in.
 

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Lmao at KD “almost sabotaging a title run” can’t rewrite history like that wasn’t 3 years ago. Draymond begged this man crying to him in the rain and then cussed him out and said they don’t need him. This wasn’t all of his doing. Draymond played a big role if not the biggest as to why KD Isn’t a warrior
 
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