The Excuses, Flapping of Capes and Sympathizing for Kevin Durant Need to Stop

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Lol nobody was saying ginannis was better than Durant after that 2021 playoff series. It was obvious who was better then.
Lies,Kevin durant got blown out in four games in his ''prime''. He was never better than lebron or the best player in the nba. He ran to curry to get rings with a super team and now is getting exposed. When bron was durant age he was making first team all NBA and leading his team to deep in the playoffs.
Giannis has been the best player in the league for the last 2-3 years not durant, he chokes when the light gets bright
 
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You’re psychoanalyzing shyt because you’re obsessed with diminishing Durant as much as possible to prop up Curry. It’s like a sickness.
It has nothing to do with diminishing what he did in GS. Nothing can ever change what he accomplished in The Bay.

But you see, that is the whole point - he knows what it takes to win, by making the necessary sacrifices to play in that system and join a team that had already established itself as winners. But instead he went back to his old ways, with the old setup and environment, and is now stuck in the exact same place he was before he went to GS.

He could've easily took what he learned from being on the Warriors and created his own model, but he didn't want that. He didn't want to play in an equal-opportunity offense, he didn't want to play alongside like-minded personnel (Kyrie's approach to the game is more reminiscent of Westbrook's).
You just said the Rockets forced them into KD iso and then blamed him for it in the same post.
They're not mutually exclusive.

They forced the offense into KD-ISO because KD was the one who didn't want to pass the ball; he's gone on record saying that he's the one who wanted to ISO more in the playoffs. If you don't remember the series, I literally posted video clip of Kerr telling him to trust his teammates during Game 5 of that series.

Go back and refresh your memory by watching those latter games if you don't take my word for it.
The adjustment was that Chris Paul got hurt and the Rockets missed all their 3s, which carried over into game 7. The Rockets started that game 8 of 12 from 3. The Warriors were 7/11 from 3 in the third quarter.
That wasn't the adjustment.

Or do you think it was purely coincidental in Game 5 that Kerr told KD to trust his teammates more to pass them the ball, and then in the following game, when the Warriors were up against the ropes at halftime of Game 6 where KD had 16 points and both Steph and Klay barely cracked double-digits, to then KD only scoring 7 points in the second half while both Steph and Klay combined for 34 points, most of which most generated when KD was off the floor (hence the 20-point margin of difference between the plus-minus).

If you watch both games there's clearly a shift in offensive approach, where the ball runs through Steph's and Klay's hand more. The literal lineups where the Warriors go on their run(s) in the second half without KD prove this. They overcome a double-digit deficit at halftime to win by nearly 30 points, with KD sitting on the bench during the pivotal stages of that comeback

I don't know why you'd bring up CP3 getting hurt, when the Warriors played the Rockets the following season, KD goes down hurt, and then Steph/Klay and the Warriors proceed to stomp another hole in the Rockets all with CP3. I don't know why you'd make an emphasis over CP3 getting hurt as if that was some sort of adjustment when the Warriors were dominating with Iggy before he got injured, taking a 2-1 lead in the series, all with a winning-margin total of +51, to then:

"G4 without Iggy - Warriors lose by 1 possessions (GS forced to divvy Iggy's minutes between Looney, Cook, Bell - who gave up multiple points on defense)
G5 without Iggy - Warriors lose by 1-2 possessions (GS forced to divvy Iggy's minutes between Looney, Cook, Bell - who gave up multiple points on defense)

You're telling me, that Iggy isn't even worth 1-2 more possessions? Or how about we flip it around - if Iggy was healthy for G4 and G5 and Tucker was out injured for G4 and G5, what would the outcome most likely be, and what would the narrative be about GS' luck?"

You’re so dedicated to being a hater you have good posters believing your bullshyt. KD and LeBron got the weirdest haters on this board.
Save this shyt for the next man.

I get that you're a Nets fan, but don't throw this hater shyt at me when I'm about as far removed from it as you could possibly get. I harbor no ill-will towards KD on any level, and don't begrudge him for leaving (he obviously wasn't happy and wanted to move on; it happens), and I certainly do not under any circumstances take anything away from what he achieved. What I'm pointing out here is factual. I'm pointing out the fact that he should've learned from his mistakes in OKC, but he obviously didn't, well, certainly not to the point where he's prioritizing winning over everything.

He's intent on making the same mistakes that he did in OKC.
 

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Lmao at KD “almost sabotaging a title run” can’t rewrite history like that wasn’t 3 years ago. Draymond begged this man crying to him in the rain and then cussed him out and said they don’t need him. This wasn’t all of his doing. Draymond played a big role if not the biggest as to why KD Isn’t a warrior
This.
 
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The problem with agreeing with what @CantStop is, I'm not saying he should've stayed on the Warriors - that became an untenable situation for him, where he simply wasn't happy and had to move on. I'm saying that he shouldn't have gone back to a similar setup he had in OKC, which he now finds himself in BK. If he wanted to do his own thing, he should've took what he learned whilst in GS and built something similar.

Nothing good/successful ultimately came from his time in OKC, so what sense was there in trying to re-create it? Why did he leave it in the first place, if he was only going to go back to it?
 

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The problem with agreeing with what @CantStop is, I'm not saying he should've stayed on the Warriors - that became an untenable situation for him, where he simply wasn't happy and had to move on. I'm saying that he shouldn't have gone back to a similar setup he had in OKC, which he now finds himself in BK. If he wanted to do his own thing, he should've took what he learned whilst in GS and built something similar.

Nothing good/successful ultimately came from his time in OKC, so what sense was there in trying to re-create it? Why did he leave it in the first place, if he was only going to go back to it?
He didn’t go to a bad situation though. It was actually a perfect situation that turned bad. His 2nd year as a Net( the first year he actually played) they almost went to the finals. shyt they were half an inch away from getting there and most likely winning the whole thing. It turned bad after harden left and Kyrie decided to not get the shot which is why he wanted to leave.
 

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Lmao at KD “almost sabotaging a title run” can’t rewrite history like that wasn’t 3 years ago. Draymond begged this man crying to him in the rain and then cussed him out and said they don’t need him. This wasn’t all of his doing. Draymond played a big role if not the biggest as to why KD Isn’t a warrior
LWO 0-5 and still trying to chime in :mjlol:
 
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He didn’t go to a bad situation though. It was actually a perfect situation that turned bad. His 2nd year as a Net( the first year he actually played) they almost went to the finals. shyt they were half an inch away from getting there and most likely winning the whole thing. It turned bad after harden left and Kyrie decided to not get the shot which is why he wanted to leave.
How can it possibly be a perfect situation that turned bad? It was obviously never perfect to begin with. It was obviously never sustainable if Harden wanted to leave after only one year. How come almost every other team managed to how come out the side of this pandemic without being comprised and the Nets didn't?

Wiggins got vaccinated against his beliefs, but he bought into the culture of the team. KD willingly partnered up with someone who he knew wouldn't sacrifice his beliefs for basketball.

Regardless of the Nets almost going to the Finals, do you think the set-up they had was sustainable for long-term success?
 

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He didn’t go to a bad situation though. It was actually a perfect situation that turned bad. His 2nd year as a Net( the first year he actually played) they almost went to the finals. shyt they were half an inch away from getting there and most likely winning the whole thing. It turned bad after harden left and Kyrie decided to not get the shot which is why he wanted to leave.
They lost in the 2nd round. They didn’t almost go to the fukking finals, spare me.
 

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How can it possibly be a perfect situation that turned bad? It was obviously never perfect to begin with. It was obviously never sustainable if Harden wanted to leave after only one year. How come almost every other team managed to how come out the side of this pandemic without being comprised and the Nets didn't?

Wiggins got vaccinated against his beliefs, but he bought into the culture of the team. KD willingly partnered up with someone who he knew wouldn't sacrifice his beliefs for basketball.

Regardless of the Nets almost going to the Finals, do you think the set-up they had was sustainable for long-term success?
Nobody could predict a pandemic. Would Boston be a bad situation if they had the mandate seeing as how Jaylen Brown s didn’t get vaccinated? Their entire title run would’ve gone up in flames.
 

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They lost in the 2nd round. They didn’t almost go to the fukking finals, spare me.
Stop being obtuse. That’s like losing Welker and Moss in 07 in the first round and then saying the Patriots and Brady failed to even make it to the super bowl. KD went to Golden State (which he should have) and half the NBA world has hated this dude since and tries to come at his character. This entire thread itself is insane. Think about the once in a lifetime confluence events that led to the current Nets.
 
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Nobody could predict a pandemic. Would Boston be a bad situation if they had the mandate seeing as how Jaylen Brown s didn’t get vaccinated? Their entire title run would’ve gone up in flames.
There was friction between Harden and Kyrie before the mandate though, and when they did end up playing together there was stylistic differences that anyone paying attention to knew wouldn't last. The mandate only accelerated and exacerbated what was always going to unfold.

Why do you have such a hard time holding KD accountable for his own situation? Why do you have such a hard time acknowledging he doesn't want to play in an actual system, but wants to be free to ISO it up (which is the same path that came unstuck in OKC)? Why do you have such a hard time holding KD accountable for there being no leadership and direction on the Nets?
 
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Stop being obtuse. That’s like losing Welker and Moss in 07 in the first round and then saying the Patriots and Brady failed to even make it to the super bowl. KD went to Golden State (which he should have) and half the NBA world has hated this dude since and tries to come at his character. This entire thread itself is insane. Think about the once in a lifetime confluence events that led to the current Nets.
It's only insane because you're a KD apologist who thinks the world conspired against him to leave him where he currently is.
 
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Why is there no leadership on the Nets?
Why is there no direction on the Nets?
Why is there no rhyme or reason to how they play?
Why is there no offensive system to raise the talent on the Nets?
Why is there no focus and effort to prioritize defense on the Nets?
What has KD done to address these issues? Did he ever take the necessary precautions so these problems didn't arise?

Can any of y'all who oppose the point of this thread answer these questions for me.
 
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