The first Caliph also burned a man to death

[Berniewood Hogan]

https://books.google.com/books?id=V...CCoQ6AEwAw#v=onepage&q=fuja'ah burned&f=false

The story of al-Jiwa and Na'ir was that al-Fuja'ah Iyas b Abd Yalil came to Abu Bakr saying, "Assist me with weapons and order me to fight whomever you wish of the apostates." So Abu Bakr gave him weapons and gave him his command. But he disobeyed his command with with regard to the Muslims, going out until he camped at al-Jiwa, and he sent Najabah b. Abu al-Maytha from the Banu al-Sharid and ordered him against the Muslims. So he launched them in a raid against every Muslim amongst Sulaym, Amir and Hawazin. Abu Bakr learned of that, so he sent to Turayfah b. Hajizz ordering him to gather men to himself and to march against al-Fuja'ah; and he sent Abdallah b. Qays al-Jasi to him by way of reinforcement, so he went. Then the two of them rose up against al-Fuja'ah and pursued him, so he began to seek shelter from the two of them until they caught up with him at al-Jiwa, whereupon they fought. Najabah was killed and Fuja'ah fled, so Turayfah followed him and took him captive, sending him to Abu Bakr.

When he was brought to Abu Bakr he ordered a fire to be kindled with much firewood in the prayer yard of Medina and threw him, with arms and legs bound, into it.

According to Abu Ja'far-Ibn Humayd-Salamah-Muhammad b. Ishaq-Abdallah b. Abi Bakr, regarding the affair of al-Fuja'ah: A man of Banu Salaym came to Abu Bakr. He was Iyas b. Abdallah b. Abd Yalil b. Umayrah b. Khufaf, called al-Fuja'ah. He said to Abu Bakr, "I am a Muslim, and I want to fight those unbelievers who have apostatized; so give me a mount and help me." So Abu Bakr mounted him upon camels and gave him weapons, whereupon he went forth indiscriminately against the people, Muslim and apostate alike, taking their property and striking whoever of them tried to resist. With him was a man of Banu al-Sharid named Najabah b. Abi al-Maytha. So when Abu Bakr received news of him, he wrote to Turayfah b. Hajiz: "The enemy of God al-Fuja'ah came to me, alleging that he was a Muslim, and asked me to empower him over those who apostatized from Islam, so I mounted him and armed him. Then absolutely certain information reached me that the enemy of God has gone forth indiscriminately against the people, the Muslim and the apostate alike, taking their property and killing whoever of them opposes him. So march against him with whatever Muslims are with you until you kill him or take him captive to bring to me." Turayfah b. Hajiz duly marched against al-Fuja'ah. Then when the people met they shot arrows back and forth, whereupon Najabah b. Abi al-Maytha was killed by an arrow shot at him. So when al-Fuja'ah saw the earnestness of the Muslims, he said to Turayfah, "By God, you are no more entitled to command than I am; you are a commander of Abu Bakr, and I likewise am his commander." At this Turayfah said to him, "If you are telling the truth, then lay down your weapons and depart with me to Abu Bakr." So he went out with him.

Then when the two of them approached Abu Bakr, he ordered Turayfah b. Hajiz to take him out to this clearing and burn him in it with fire. So Turayfah took him out to the prayer yard and kindled a fire for him and threw him into it.

 

[The Fukin Prophecy]

This is bullshyt...

Muslims ain't violent, Islam is the religion of peace...Never mind what the Quran says and centuries of violence...

Why would the Islamic State have anything to do with Islam? Why would they burn muslims?

The logical conclusion to what ISIS is, is an elaborate covert operation by Mossad and the CIA to go to war against muslims...

They playing yall minds brehs....

























did i do that right?

 

[50CentStan]

Source for the story, besides the Egyptian with suspenders?

Find in the Quran where it says you can execute enemies by burning them alive and I'll believe you.

 

[Berniewood Hogan]

Source for the story

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Muhammad_ibn_Jarir_al-Tabari

Muhammad Ibn Jarir al-Tabari, a Sunni Muslim scholar who was one of the earliest and most respected historians of Islam, cited a letter written by Abu Bakr, the first caliph to succeed Muhammad following the founder’s death in A.D. 632.

Abu Bakr — noting Muhammad “struck whoever turned his back to him until he came to Islam, willingly or grudgingly” — promised, regarding anyone who abandoned Islam, to “burn them with fire, slaughter them by any means, and take women and children captive.”

Tabari, who lived from A.D. 839-923, wrote of the letter in Volume 10, pp. 55-57 of his History of al-Tabari, “The Conquest of Arabia: The Riddah [Apostasy] Wars A.D. 632-633.”

Find in the Quran where it says you can execute enemies by burning them alive and I'll believe you.

There are plenty of facts that are not in the Qur'an but are nonetheless true. Early Islamic history cannot be dismissed just because it was written in books other than the Qur'an. This is reasonable.

 

[ORDER_66]

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Muhammad_ibn_Jarir_al-Tabari




There are plenty of facts that are not in the Qur'an but are nonetheless true. Early Islamic history cannot be dismissed just because it was written in books other than the Qur'an. This is reasonable.

some fukked up shyt...

 

[50CentStan]

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Muhammad_ibn_Jarir_al-Tabari




There are plenty of facts that are not in the Qur'an but are nonetheless true. Early Islamic history cannot be dismissed just because it was written in books other than the Qur'an. This is reasonable.

I feel what youre saying, but how can I believe that story when the bolded is false?

Muhammad Ibn Jarir al-Tabari, a Sunni Muslim scholar who was one of the earliest and most respected historians of Islam, cited a letter written by Abu Bakr, the first caliph to succeed Muhammad following the founder’s death in A.D. 632.

Abu Bakr — noting Muhammad “struck whoever turned his back to him until he came to Islam, willingly or grudgingly” — promised, regarding anyone who abandoned Islam, to “burn them with fire, slaughter them by any means, and take women and children captive.”

Tabari, who lived from A.D. 839-923, wrote of the letter in Volume 10, pp. 55-57 of his History of al-Tabari, “The Conquest of Arabia: The Riddah [Apostasy] Wars A.D. 632-633.”

He never stopped inviting them to islam (similar to how Slaimon always keeps saying "may Allah guide....to Islam, he didn't ride on them for not becoming muslim, you can argue it if you want (i rather you not, because I know how you feel, and you know how I feel) , but this quote is false. And no doubt many Hadiths and stories are true, but some are definitely fabricated, but if you can use the Quran as your source it makes your argument stronger

 

[tmonster]

This is bullshyt...

Muslims ain't violent, Islam is the religion of peace...Never mind what the Quran says and centuries of violence...

Why would the Islamic State have anything to do with Islam? Why would they burn muslims?

The logical conclusion to what ISIS is, is an elaborate covert operation by Mossad and the CIA to go to war against muslims...

They playing yall minds brehs....

























did i do that right?

:zfg:da delivery though

 

[Berniewood Hogan]

I feel what youre saying, but how can I believe that story when the bolded is false?

https://books.google.com/books?id=B...me to Islam, willingly or grudgingly”&f=false

Are you calling Abu Bakr a liar? Did Abu Bakr make that story up? Did the first Caliph, one of the "rightly guided" caliphs, slander Muhammad?

 

[50CentStan]

https://books.google.com/books?id=BpfJVSSiAMwC&pg=PA55&lpg=PA55&dq=“struck whoever turned his back to him until he came to Islam, willingly or grudgingly”&source=bl&ots=ZpRFPuHVQz&sig=bVMKWdctzinz8WgzgK43tpEEn7s&hl=en&sa=X&ei=ZuLaVJufFoHzoATyxoLQDg&ved=0CDgQ6AEwBA#v=onepage&q=“struck whoever turned his back to him until he came to Islam, willingly or grudgingly”&f=false

Are you calling Abu Bakr a liar? Did Abu Bakr make that story up? Did the first Caliph, one of the "rightly guided" caliphs, slander Muhammad?

Of course not, Im saying who is reporting "thats what he said" is probably fabricating the story

 

[Berniewood Hogan]

Of course not, Im saying who is reporting "thats what he said" is probably fabricating the story

What do you base that probability on? I'm not quoting some Christian or atheist skeptic. Al-Tabari is a prominent Muslim historian from centuries ago. Why would he, as a Muslim, make up this story?

 

[50CentStan]

What do you base that probability on? I'm not quoting some Christian or atheist skeptic. Al-Tabari is a prominent Muslim historian from centuries ago. Why would he, as a Muslim, make up this story?

Al Tabari wrote this on second hand accounts, he wasnt there, he was a persian historian. He did not live amongst the Sahaba (Prophet Muhammad PBUHs friends/companions/future caliphs), It is impossible someone writing down quotes he didnt hear for himself to be 100% true. Like a game of telephone.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Muhammad_ibn_Jarir_al-Tabari

 

[CHL]

This is bullshyt...

Muslims ain't violent, Islam is the religion of peace...Never mind what the Quran says and centuries of violence...

Why would the Islamic State have anything to do with Islam? Why would they burn muslims?

The logical conclusion to what ISIS is, is an elaborate covert operation by Mossad and the CIA to go to war against muslims...

They playing yall minds brehs....

























did i do that right?

You trust logic and facts? #sheep

 

[Berniewood Hogan]

It is impossible someone writing down quotes he didnt hear for himself to be 100% true.

What? That's not impossible.

 

[☑︎#VoteDemocrat]

Source for the story, besides the Egyptian with suspenders?

Find in the Quran where it says you can execute enemies by burning them alive and I'll believe you.

why limit it to burning?

 

[88m3]

would you like a side of apathy with your denial?