the first good list Complex has done. 90's babies, admit it, rap was better in 90's.

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Nerd Rap isn't about wearing dresses and acting like a woman. Like masculinity doesn't equal negativity and ignorance.

Last time I checked, Lil Wayne is getting a massive backlash from the public. His next album will not do Carter IV numbers or have the popularity of it. If you were paying attention, even the trap rappers that spit out negative shyt ain't making as much money as other people. Their fanbases are dwindling and have fewer supporters that buy their retail shyt.

For every ASAP Rocky that is doing that feminine shyt, you have a K-Dot that isn't doing it. For every Weezy, you have a J Cole selling out tours in America and in Europe. There is balance in today's rap game that didn't exist 4 years ago. This ain't the 'Stanky Leg' era anymore and these new cats are gonna be about the music again.

I agree the balance is better in mainstream rap than it was in the 2nd half of the 00s.

Nobody's sellin records across the board. J cole isn't nerd or trap. He really has no image. Plus he ain't poppin like that on the TV/Radio/Net to really influence the youth.

Mainstream rap will never get the balance it had during the Golden Era(87-96) until it loses its music industry foundation and adopts the Hip Hop foundation again. Kats like K Dot and his group Black Hippy will sneak in as a breath of fresh air but mainstream rap across the board will remain :whoa:
 

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What I like about 2013, is that we are about to enter another :lawd: age of dope music with the likes of Cole, K-Dot, Wale, and even Drake leading the way.

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Well ur of the minority so liek a said..this is why u just continue to prove my point thats its generational

Because the albums I gave u were held to high regard on release by the current generation...

no im not of the minority. youve just been hoodwinked.

what generation are you speaking of? how old are you? if im old, then these rappers certainly dont represent "your generation". wayne is older than me, and the rest are way older.

also, it should be noted that nobody stressed this "its my generation" chit in order to validate the music they liked until now. do you ever stop & wonder why that is? it has nothing to do with generations and its not your fault so theres no need to be so defensive. its the industry that messed the whole game up. point blank. youre only riding for this because this is the music that youre growing up watching on tv. be real with yourself.

and youre not even reppin your generation right. young buls out here are more into stuff like MMG rather than most of the names being thrown around in here. MMG runs this current era and i aint see their name dropped yet. i saw wale mentioned once, and hes by far the least popular of the MMG artists on the radio. this place is backwards.

The drug dealer era of the mid 90's...In the 80's rappers weren't saying they were drug dealers....Being a drug dealer was looked down on back then. Then Geto Boys took off..Wu Tang blew up...Then all of a sudden it was ok to be a drug dealer in Hip Hop.....from Bone thugs to Master P....Do u not remember that transistion? You do remember there was a point where dudes werent rapping about selling drugs correct?

im just saying that you cant classify anything as a drug dealer era. you cant trickle it down to such.

also, are we gonna act like eazy-e wasnt the '80s. we gonna act like eazy & cube didnt have joints like "dope man" in the NWA days?

Black kids, by large, grew up in the burbs and not hung up on race like previous generations. Even white kids nowadays are like that. Funny how 70s and 80s babies grew up in rather hostile situations regarding race, controversy in music, and the gangsta epidemic cause by the crack era. Now, kids rather listen to their Rihanna/ Katy Perry/ Pitbull/ Flo Rida hybrid techno music than a Jay-Z or a DMX.

OH NO!!!!!

NOT THIS CHARACTER AGAIN!!!!

:smh::smh:

Stopped reading.

LOL. dude is a trip.

but dont stop reading. youre depriving yourself of classic comedy.

did my man just say that black kids would prefer to listen to katy perry, pitbull & flo-rida over DMX?? are you reading the crack thats coming off of his keyboard?

Yeah, but did they ever had an impact so large, that kids all abroad-from the hood, burbs, and overseas-started think that "nerd rap" is cool? Good thing that certain aspects of mental slavery is being broken.

native tongue was by far bigger than all these industry plants that youre gassing up right now.

these rappers that youre mentioning would kill to have the genuine popularity that native tongue had.

they co-existed with gangsta rap, which co-existed with party rap, which co-existed with political rappers like public enemy & x-clan, which co-existed with other forms of hip-hop as well.

there was a tremendous amount of variety back then, contrary to what youre saying in your previous post......also, i recall numerous people correcting you on this not too long ago. obviously, you enjoy reveling in ignorance.
 

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no im not of the minority. youve just been hoodwinked.

what generation are you speaking of? how old are you? if im old, then these rappers certainly dont represent "your generation". wayne is older than me, and the rest are way older.

also, it should be noted that nobody stressed this "its my generation" chit in order to validate the music they liked until now. do you ever stop & wonder why that is? it has nothing to do with generations and its not your fault so theres no need to be so defensive. its the industry that messed the whole game up. point blank. youre only riding for this because this is the music that youre growing up watching on tv. be real with yourself.

and youre not even reppin your generation right. young buls out here are more into stuff like MMG rather than most of the names being thrown around in here. MMG runs this current era and i aint see their name dropped yet. i saw wale mentioned once, and hes by far the least popular of the MMG artists on the radio. this place is backwards.



im just saying that you cant classify anything as a drug dealer era. you cant trickle it down to such.

also, are we gonna act like eazy-e wasnt the '80s. we gonna act like eazy & cube didnt have joints like "dope man" in the NWA days?



OH NO!!!!!

NOT THIS CHARACTER AGAIN!!!!

:smh::smh:



LOL. dude is a trip.

but dont stop reading. youre depriving yourself of classic comedy.

did my man just say that black kids would prefer to listen to katy perry, pitbull & flo-rida over DMX?? are you reading the crack thats coming off of his keyboard?



native tongue was by far bigger than all these industry plants that youre gassing up right now.

these rappers that youre mentioning would kill to have the genuine popularity that native tongue had.

they co-existed with gangsta rap, which co-existed with party rap, which co-existed with political rappers like public enemy & x-clan, which co-existed with other forms of hip-hop as well.

there was a tremendous amount of variety back then, contrary to what youre saying in your previous post......also, i recall numerous people correcting you on this not too long ago. obviously, you enjoy reveling in ignorance.

:blessed: took a peer to break it down :manny:
 

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im just saying that you cant classify anything as a drug dealer era. you cant trickle it down to such.

also, are we gonna act like eazy-e wasnt the '80s. we gonna act like eazy & cube didnt have joints like "dope man" in the NWA days?



Yes I can classify such an era because I watched the transistion go from drug dealer bad to drug dealer ok......Thats not the official name of that era i just made that part up.....But there was that era where all of a sudden being a drug dealer was ok.....This was when Scarface and Wu tang took off early mid 90's.......Then came Biggie and then Sticky said hes gonna start selling drugs around his way if this rap sh*t dont pay......and No Eazy doesnt count....Eazy represented the "gangsta rap" era more then the drug dealer era.....and Dope man was story telling that didnt really glorify dope dealing. Hell even Slick Rick sold dope on his first album but who's gonna count that? When i say drug dealer era I'm talking about the same thing De La Soul pointed out on the song Stakes is High in 96 because he saw it too.... when all of a sudden it was ok to be a drug dealer. Even Kool G Rap was always always borderline story telling up until 4, 5, 6 when he became a kingpin.



Real talk. Funny how many oldheads today talk about the 90s was all that in terms of self expression, when many of the non-gangsta elements were shut out from discussions and thinking that a drug dealer was "real." Crazy how the 80s had groups like Public Enemy that talked about that poison that was moving into black folk mindset. Cats are trying to re-write history before our eyes, thinking that the drug dealer and the gangsta has always been worshipped.



you had 'Self Destruction' in the East and 'All In The Same gang' in the west.....you had the biggest rap names from both coasts speaking against violence and crime. Being the bad guy in the urban community was looked down on in Hip Hip in the 80's.......When Eazy E and NWA came they were different so it was considered ok. But that was a gift and a curse because NWA's gangsta influence had the whole game switching.....In 1990 you had house Party...a year and a half later you had Boyz N The Hood and the hip hop image went from 'fun and party' to 'real life problems in the hood'....Cube represented the conscious side of the nikka...NWA represented the reckless side...Soon that reckless side would be the cool thing and even LL Cool J was now making 14 Shots To The Dome......Will Smith and Hammer got replaced with Snoop and Biggie...I remember the transistion
 

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:salute: them for mentioning Ghostwriter and Are You Afraid Of The Dark.

But, they forgot about this
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Yes I can classify such an era because I watched the transistion go from drug dealer bad to drug dealer ok......Thats not the official name of that era i just made that part up.....But there was that era where all of a sudden being a drug dealer was ok.....This was when Scarface and Wu tang took off early mid 90's.......Then came Biggie and then Sticky said hes gonna start selling drugs around his way if this rap sh*t dont pay......and No Eazy doesnt count....Eazy represented the "gangsta rap" era more then the drug dealer era.....and Dope man was story telling that didnt really glorify dope dealing. Hell even Slick Rick sold dope on his first album but who's gonna count that? When i say drug dealer era I'm talking about the same thing De La Soul pointed out on the song Stakes is High in 96 because he saw it too.... when all of a sudden it was ok to be a drug dealer. Even Kool G Rap was always always borderline story telling up until 4, 5, 6 when he became a kingpin.

i definitely hear you.

i just think that the term "era" gets tossed around too loosely. thats where you lost me.

for instance, the rise of scarface and the rise of wutang occured in 2 different eras.

but im not arguing any of the actual content of your post.
 

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that's why we need more of the disenfranchised black kids from the slums to make better and profound music arcross the board. Kendrick Lamar and his group Black Hippy was a good start.

I'll venture far enough to say it doesn't even have to be "black kids" and it doesn't even have to be "profound".

Hate to be the one to bring this up, but Slim...his best records are the ones where he just showed us that he could rap his ass off. He blew up in the millenium and the reason we paid attention to him is because we knew that all these rappers makin' hits wasn't spittin' like he was. Rappers need to do that again.
 

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Yes I can classify such an era because I watched the transistion go from drug dealer bad to drug dealer ok......Thats not the official name of that era i just made that part up.....But there was that era where all of a sudden being a drug dealer was ok.....This was when Scarface and Wu tang took off early mid 90's.......Then came Biggie and then Sticky said hes gonna start selling drugs around his way if this rap sh*t dont pay......and No Eazy doesnt count....Eazy represented the "gangsta rap" era more then the drug dealer era.....and Dope man was story telling that didnt really glorify dope dealing. Hell even Slick Rick sold dope on his first album but who's gonna count that? When i say drug dealer era I'm talking about the same thing De La Soul pointed out on the song Stakes is High in 96 because he saw it too.... when all of a sudden it was ok to be a drug dealer. Even Kool G Rap was always always borderline story telling up until 4, 5, 6 when he became a kingpin.







you had 'Self Destruction' in the East and 'All In The Same gang' in the west.....you had the biggest rap names from both coasts speaking against violence and crime. Being the bad guy in the urban community was looked down on in Hip Hip in the 80's.......When Eazy E and NWA came they were different so it was considered ok. But that was a gift and a curse because NWA's gangsta influence had the whole game switching.....In 1990 you had house Party...a year and a half later you had Boyz N The Hood and the hip hop image went from 'fun and party' to 'real life problems in the hood'....Cube represented the conscious side of the nikka...NWA represented the reckless side...Soon that reckless side would be the cool thing and even LL Cool J was now making 14 Shots To The Dome......Will Smith and Hammer got replaced with Snoop and Biggie...I remember the transistion

shyt was mad gradual how they slid in the gangsta image and flipped it into a good thing. Good observation.
 
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