the first good list Complex has done. 90's babies, admit it, rap was better in 90's.

[smokeurobinson]

but what is a drug dealer era? as long as drugs are being peddled, people are gonna rap about it. i dont get that argument.

The drug dealer era of the mid 90's...In the 80's rappers weren't saying they were drug dealers....Being a drug dealer was looked down on back then. Then Geto Boys took off..Wu Tang blew up...Then all of a sudden it was ok to be a drug dealer in Hip Hop.....from Bone thugs to Master P....Do u not remember that transistion? You do remember there was a point where dudes werent rapping about selling drugs correct?

 

[phillycavsfan]

WTT is the greatest rap album ever

And...we're done here.

 

[Wild self]

I think we're at the end of black music as we know it, and that's the disconnect between generations here. Even in the time of the Golden Era there wasn't the feeling of moving too far to the mainstream. Even if something caught on, it was what it was. I see r&b as going through the same in the 80s. Lots of cross over popularity and the sound started to drift. It was followed by a backlash in the 90s of a decidedly more r&b sound. But it was too late. I see the same for hip-hop. The backlash has begun. By 2020 it will where r&b is now. Just think about the black children growing up now. On average more prosperous, living un more diverse settings. They won't even care for it because what they are growing up on bow isn't inspiring. That's the rub between generations. I think some of us older heads can see the end due to the mistreatment. We can see why the next ten won't embrace trash or even care. Too bad.

Black kids, by large, grew up in the burbs and not hung up on race like previous generations. Even white kids nowadays are like that. Funny how 70s and 80s babies grew up in rather hostile situations regarding race, controversy in music, and the gangsta epidemic cause by the crack era. Now, kids rather listen to their Rihanna/ Katy Perry/ Pitbull/ Flo Rida hybrid techno music than a Jay-Z or a DMX.

The drug dealer era of the mid 90's...In the 80's rappers weren't saying they were drug dealers....Being a drug dealer was looked down on back then. Then Geto Boys took off..Wu Tang blew up...Then all of a sudden it was ok to be a drug dealer in Hip Hop.....from Bone thugs to Master P....Do u not remember that transistion? You do remember there was a point where dudes werent rapping about selling drugs correct?

Real talk. Funny how many oldheads today talk about the 90s was all that in terms of self expression, when many of the non-gangsta elements were shut out from discussions and thinking that a drug dealer was "real." Crazy how the 80s had groups like Public Enemy that talked about that poison that was moving into black folk mindset. Cats are trying to re-write history before our eyes, thinking that the drug dealer and the gangsta has always been worshipped.

 

[Wild self]

2005-now is the worst era for music.

I say 2005-2010 was by far thww worst. Ever since 2010, mainstream artists that have been blowing up his gradually improving. No more of them wack ass dances and one hit wonders on the charts anymore.

 

[phillycavsfan]

Black kids, by large, grew up in the burbs

Stopped reading.

 

[Wild self]

Stopped reading.

LOL more black kids are being raised in the burbs than previous generations. You really think that most black kids (90s and 00s babies) identify with the hood compared to the 70s and 80s babies? That is the reason for the shift of black kids' thinking and the way they dress.

 

[phillycavsfan]

LOL more black kids are being raised in the burbs than previous generations. You really think that most black kids (90s and 00s babies) identify with the hood compared to the 70s and 80s babies? That is the reason for the shift of black kids' thinking and the way they dress.

No, the reason for the shift is the internet making the world "smaller".

 

[Wild self]

No, the reason for the shift is the internet making the world "smaller".

Even if you right, black kids are no longer held back by the "acting white" labels

 

[phillycavsfan]

Even if you right, black kids are no longer held back by the "acting white" labels

Nerd rap didn't start with this generation, bruh. Ever heard of the Native Tongues?

 

[Wild self]

Nerd rap didn't start with this generation, bruh. Ever heard of the Native Tongues?

Yeah, but did they ever had an impact so large, that kids all abroad-from the hood, burbs, and overseas-started think that "nerd rap" is cool? Good thing that certain aspects of mental slavery is being broken.

 

[Rakim Allah]

Yeah, but did they ever had an impact so large, that kids all abroad-from the hood, burbs, and overseas-started think that "nerd rap" is cool? Good thing that certain aspects of mental slavery is being broken.

so going from one extreme to the next is good...criminalization to feminization of the black male.

We have never gotten a perfect balance in Hip Hop but before the mid 90s it was a decent balance of the black male image.

 

[DANJ!]

Man please.

That song was no different than EPMDs Crossover.

Dudes always had songs talking about niqqas selling their souls at the expense of hip hops soul. That doesn't equal that they're complaining and wanting to go back. They just hated what they saw ahead.

It doesn't always mean they're complaining and wanna go back... but "I Used To Love HER" did indeed mean that. You don't wanna look at it that way, but everything he talked about in that last verse was the stuff that was getting criticized by the "purists" about hip-hop in '94. Maybe you weren't one of those people, or maybe you don't recall, but yep- even then, there were people/artists who didn't like the popular things of the day. Listen to that last verse and notice how much he says the word "now" in reference to the negative things about "her". It's right there for ya, and if you've heard the song enough times, you don't even have to listen cause you know that verse... it is what it is.

 

[Wild self]

so going from one extreme to the next is good...criminalization to feminization of the black male.

We have never gotten a perfect balance in Hip Hop but before the mid 90s it was a decent balance of the black male image.

LOL @ nerd rap and the nerd image being feminine. Hell, even if you are right, it is still better than the criminal element that has been glorified in Hip Hop for far too long. Face it, all of the young society is moving on from the negativity and stereotypes of the past. Hell, we need more nerd rap to make better music again cause nerds take risks to innovate.

 

[Rakim Allah]

LOL @ nerd rap and the nerd image being feminine. Hell, even if you are right, it is still better than the criminal element that has been glorified in Hip Hop for far too long. Face it, all of the young society is moving on from the negativity and stereotypes of the past. Hell, we need more nerd rap to make better music again cause nerds take risks to innovate.

cats wearing women's clothes is just as bad as the criminal element. Both can perpetrate the extinction of black people.

Face it those in power are feeding young society the same horseshyt but in a different outfit.

As for negatity and stereotypes cats are still rappin about ignorant shyt...when has that changed?? Lil Wayne can dress like a female or a nerd but the content of his music is still ignorant.

 

[Wild self]

cats wearing women's clothes is just as bad as the criminal element. Both can perpetrate the extinction of black people.

Face it those in power are feeding young society the same horseshyt but in a different outfit.

As for negatity and stereotypes cats are still rappin about ignorant shyt...when has that changed?? Lil Wayne can dress like a female or a nerd but the content of his music is still ignorant.

Nerd Rap isn't about wearing dresses and acting like a woman. Like masculinity doesn't equal negativity and ignorance.

Last time I checked, Lil Wayne is getting a massive backlash from the public. His next album will not do Carter IV numbers or have the popularity of it. If you were paying attention, even the trap rappers that spit out negative shyt ain't making as much money as other people. Their fanbases are dwindling and have fewer supporters that buy their retail shyt.

For every ASAP Rocky that is doing that feminine shyt, you have a K-Dot that isn't doing it. For every Weezy, you have a J Cole selling out tours in America and in Europe. There is balance in today's rap game that didn't exist 4 years ago. This ain't the 'Stanky Leg' era anymore and these new cats are gonna be about the music again.