THE FIRST WAVE OF THE MODERN PG'S

[Supreme365]

I said lead to a championship. Meaning none of them could be the #1 option on a championship team.

Naw I have to disagree give that 01 sixers team someone like sheed and Billups and things might be a tad bit different management broke up what should've been a powerhouse in the east and Larry's brown team hopping...that 01 season should've been the start of something special for that franchise...That team was moving places Ai's first five years were damn near perfect the team got better every single year and went a little deeper in the playoffs until they hit the finals giving the lakers their only loss in the post season and as an individual ai kept fans in the seats ,racked up scoring titles and even won a MVP but after that fifth season the franchise hopped on a treadmill and started going nowhere fast

 

[mbewane]

Gilbert arenas was doing all that including the three points. Dropping 30 like its nothing. Could still get you six or seven assists. We had a top offense and posters from other teams would argue he wasn't really a pg. Yet when you watched him play whatever it was he was putting so much pressure on the opposing team defense. He had a little curry in him and a little Harden. Pull up threes from half court

How quickly we forget

 

[75 Others]

Naw I have to disagree give that 01 sixers team someone like sheed and Billups and things might be a tad bit different management broke up what should've been a powerhouse in the east and Larry's brown team hopping...that 01 season should've been the start of something special for that franchise...That team was moving places Ai's first five years were damn near perfect the team got better every single year and went a little deeper in the playoffs until they hit the finals giving the lakers their only loss in the post season and as an individual ai kept fans in the seats ,racked up scoring titles and even won a MVP but after that fifth season the franchise hopped on a treadmill and started going nowhere fast

replace billups with AI on that '04 pistons squad, do they beat the lakers?

 

[Supreme365]

replace billups with AI on that '04 pistons squad, do they beat the lakers?

I believe so that frontcourt's defense + plus sheeds ability to play like a superstar when the team needed it + rip as a great number 2 option a Larry and AI reunion I think it's definitely possible you lose billups Defense but add a scorer who can average 30 and go off for 40-60 on any given night and he was just as good of a playmaker

 

[75 Others]

I believe so that frontcourt's defense + plus sheeds ability to play like a superstar when the team needed it + rip as a great number 2 option a Larry and AI reunion I think it's definitely possible you lose billups Defense but add a scorer who can average 30 and go off for 40-60 on any given night and he was just as good of a playmaker

With all respect to AI and his impact on the game of basketball, I don't think they do. Them boys were a well oiled machine, and I don't see that continuity being as good as with AI. I see a lot of ball stoppage with AI, which will screw everything up. Sure he can get points, but not very efficiently. This is a dude that took 30 shots to get 30 points

 

[Supreme365]

With all respect to AI and his impact on the game of basketball, I don't think they do. Them boys were a well oiled machine, and I don't see that continuity being as good as with AI. I see a lot of ball stoppage with AI, which will screw everything up. Sure he can get points, but not very efficiently. This is a dude that took 30 shots to get 30 points

Billups wasn't efficient either he shot 39% from the field and 38% during the playoffs in 04...you telling me a prime ai + arguably the greatest defense of all time being coached by one of the greatest coaches of all time plus two realiable 2nd and 3rd options wouldn't win rings

 

[Blackrogue]

I think in that pistons team it was balanced and had a lot of depth. Everyone just played their role at a high level... Not certified all star but good. Ben Wallace wasn't a big scorer so that helped in that there was never any need to feed him the ball. He Focused on what he was meant to do. Rebound.. Defend.. Set screens.. Also come to think of it that team had a lot of spacing.

The key will always be sheed for me. He was the perfect utility tool. Bruh could defensively defend the C and PF on switches. Offensively he was a beast in the post with that stupid high arc shot. And then he was shooting threes well and making them being ahead of his time while we complained why's a pf shooting threes.

Sheed was the key. So far there's not been any pg leading teams as the best player who doesn't have huge size. No matter how good they are and all these hall of gamers should serve as an example. They always needed someone else on the court because the pg and usually the smallest guy on the court . ( unless they figured out something different) needs help

 

[Reggie]

Say what you want but all those cats in the first post would eat something vicious with the way the game is today. AI would stay at the foul line on the regular and Stevie Franchise would probably average 30.

 

[010101]

they were better individual players imo
they got those #'s without the whole scheme being built around boosting them

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[Supreme365]

Say what you want but all those cats in the first post would eat something vicious with the way the game is today. AI would stay at the foul line on the regular and Stevie Franchise would probably average 30.

Franchise had all the tools to be an all-timer I don't think people realize how talented and gifted he was no reason why he couldn't of been the best pg of his era

 

[Reggie]

Franchise had all the tools to be an all-timer I don't think people realize how talented and gifted he was no reason why he couldn't of been the best pg of his era

For sure bruh. Just as athletic or close to it as you can get as cats like Russy and Rose before the injuries. Had a decent jumper and could get to the hoop at will. Had a solid career but could have been better if he was born a few years later.

 

[010101]

Franchise had all the tools to be an all-timer I don't think people realize how talented and gifted he was no reason why he couldn't of been the best pg of his era

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[Supreme365]

For sure bruh. Just as athletic or close to it as you can get as cats like Russy and Rose before the injuries. Had a decent jumper and could get to the hoop at will. Had a solid career but could have been better if he was born a few years later.

I think he just needed a different approach to the game the early 00's had a lot of talent but that Iso ball cross a nikka up then cross nikka up was not good basketball this play highlights all of his talent and all of the intangibles that held him back he beat him off the dribble like three times but kept bringing it back on some playground shyt now maybe I don't have the context it could've been a blowout preseason game or something but if not I'd be looking at him like if I'm the coach this ain't and1




















But got damn that was nasty besides ai on Antonio Daniels I never seen a player get broken down so badly he'd have to run my fade after that