The Fugees were dissing the hell out of 2pac on Cowboys

[CHICAGO]

Breh, the scene look identical to Get Around at parts, they said Treach was reaching too and they literally say "Naughty By Nature" and when Treach pressed them they was like "nah it's not a diss it just sounded cool"

Those husky suburb boys were throwing some subs throughout their career, it was just going unchecked for a while.

He literally drafted the code of Thug life with Mutulu, was slinging dope at 17 in Marin, shooting ppl, so was he just a theatre kid method acting? Theres a couple Harlem brehs on here that have some stories from his time in Harlem where it dont sound like he was playing pretend. He was a multi faceted youngster getting into all kinda different scenes, just cause he went to a art school for a couple years dont invalidate anything, he lived in the hood in b'more, he wasn't living in the neighborhoods his classmates were from, you know all through the 90s and early 2000s they were bussing gangbangers to white schools in LA right? Didn't invalidate them why is it that way with Pac? coli pac haters just biased imo

DUDE CLEARLY SAYS
"AROUND AND ROUNNND"
IN THE FIRST VERSE IN
THE SAME CADENCE IT WAS SAID
IN "I GET AROUND"
NEVERMIND THE 2PAC IMPOSTER
THEY HAVE IN THE VID



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[KingSol81]

DUDE CLEARLY SAYS
"AROUND AND ROUNNND"
IN THE FIRST VERSE IN
THE SAME CADENCE IT WAS SAID
IN "I GET AROUND"
NEVERMIND THE 2PAC IMPOSTER
THEY HAVE IN THE VID



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"Oh so Pac had the word around and elongated cadence trademarked now"


These goal post movers gonna have us in a different football field before this thread done

 

[KingSol81]

We all know how obnoxious elitist NYers can be, imagine back in 96!!

Biggest highlight of that in 95/96 would be their declaration that Pac and DR were dissing the east coast like Jerz, Philly etc dont exist, NY been had only child syndrome, sometimes I wish Queens would emancipate from NY and become their own city.

 

[Amor fati]

None of this has anything to do with the conversation in this thread - the one you jumped in on.

Someone babbled about Pac supposedly going around trying to bully groups like these (for context Fugees, De La, Tribe). And when it was corrected that he had initially shown love and only retaliated after these groups sent shots or outright dissed him - yall moved the goalpost and stop talking about that and started babbling about other shyt - like in your post I just quoted.

That’s a feminine maneuver. Anyone that deals with women knows exactly what I’m talking about. You’re arguing and dealing with X and when finding themselves in a situation they’ve been proven wrong - women will often move the conversation from X to YZ to trying and extract a “win” out of it. Men should be objective.

You don’t have to look at Pac as a hero/martyr, but you also don’t need to lie on a dead man or not have control over your estrogen about him

That triple agent guy is a straight bird all that goal post moving is learnt behaviour from his momma, hence why he moves like a girl.

 

[KingSol81]

At this point, it’s more indifference than anything. I used to be a big fan of his, but as I got older, I started noticing how often he acted out like a spoiled kid—lashing out at people who had nothing to do with the situations he was in. He never confronted the real ones who might’ve actually had something to do with him getting shot, like Jack or others. Instead, he picked battles with people who weren’t involved at all. In hindsight, he came off as immature. I see why a certain sect of people love him, though. It’s because they see either themselves or who they wish they were in him.

On some real shyt ppls biggest critiques that I could give credence to comes as a result of viewing a dude in his early 20s through our now adult lens, we cant expect someone who died at 25 to retroactively mature to the mindset of us in our late 30s and early 40s.

That said the critiques in this thread are almost all just childish NY bias

 

[KingSol81]

Pac was zesty. We have all seen the video where he showed his true self. People seem to think he was some super thug but he was zesty and emotional. I'll post the video if I have to

Right, the guy who women universally loved and who ran thru half the female celebs in the industry in a 4 year span was a down low Mister Cee, got it.

 

[KingSol81]

We call that being a coward ass p*ssy. Knowing who set you up and shot you only to go at others having nothing to do with it makes you a coward. For example, if someone sets me up and I get shot, but I choose to go at YOU because I'm afraid of the real culprit, what does that make me? It makes me a coward ass p*ssy, but because it's 2pac, it's called "being real".

So Against All Odds dont exist right? More revisionism smh, thankfully its documented, he was mad at Biggie for not acting like his mans, like he didn't do more for that husky bytch than his own label head, he said Christopher Robbins owed him more than to act like he didn't know what happened when he did. It is what it is tho, he predicted it, talking mad shyt after hes gone but hush like that woodland cac bytch Nell while he was alive. Why nobody slid for Big huh? RIP Poochie.

 

[KingSol81]

The rules always change & get bent in crazy directions for him because of some of these nikkas emotional attachment to him & the narrative he put out there. Pac was rightfully traumatized by what happened to him but nikkas need to stop making excuses for the half-truths, lies he told & the blaming of people that weren't involved when he knew not long after the Quad who set that up

Yawl act like he didn't clarify and clear up his grievances at the time, yawl realize it's in print right?

 

[Chip Skylark]

Wasn’t that aimed at Jeru

Wasn’t big and jeru beefing too?

My New York brehs give me the knowledge

 

[KingSol81]

He never mentioned prodigy name either. Just talked about his sickle cell

Probably didn't know which one was which, Outlawz had them stu-stu-stuttering when they knocked on their hotel door in ATL

 

[bigde09]

Probably didn't know which one was which, Outlawz had them stu-stu-stuttering when they knocked on their hotel door in ATL

TUPAC: "And then Mobb Deep doing shows and they introducing people onstage like this the nikka that shot ’Pac."

ANGIE MARTINEZ: "Where was that?"
TUPAC: "In Queens ! It get real deep and everybody involved know it get deep."

B-but Pac was a bully.

They STILL won't put that interview out

 

[KingSol81]

Yall need to stop lying. Why do you guys continue to get online and tell blatant lies knowing that a few of us up here lived in that era and will call you out on the nonsense?

My sentiments towards yawl exactly

 

[Mr. Negative]

Wasn’t big and jeru beefing too?

My New York brehs give me the knowledge

Yeah, everybody was beefing

Jeru threw a sub at Biggie on "One Day" (did everything but call him by name, really), then Biggie got back at him on Kick in the Door.

 

[KingSol81]

Mobb changed the song after Pac died out of respect. The OG version was way crazier ccording to anyone who was there. Havoc barely likes to talk about it. Saying his name or not, Drop A Gem On 'Em > any Pac song.

BIG was (understandably) confused and conflicted, as the people that they warned him about beforehand did exactly the foul shyt he was warned about, then turned around and started on BIG (which he later admitted was a ploy to sell records).

You're one of my favorite posters breh but your bias is showing hella, mine too tho so it is what it is.

The worst unused Nu Mixx Klassick scrap over anything from the Mobb catalog

 

[KingSol81]

Naughty By Nature tried it at a show after De La dissed them on the Stakes Is High intro

And they Juelzed like they always do