The Ghost of Cornel West (Michael Eric Dyson article/long read)
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@ Michael Eric Dyson being in the lab cooking up the ether in this lengthy article for two years.
mastermind
Rest In Power Kobe
I liek what Dr. Watkins tries to do, but he wrong.
West been shytting on Dyson, Obama, Sharpton, etc in all media for years. Him mentioning the "white" New Republic is playing to the uninformed.
West just released a new book in October.
And he has been critical of Bill Clinton. In his interviews where he launched criticisms at Obama they were usually couched in his criticism of Bill Clinton, calling Obama a "brown-face Bill Clinton" and saying Obama was "just as centrist and manipulative and opportunistic as Bill Clinton". And labeling Hillary Clinton as a war criminal and saying she is just as bad as Henry Kissinger strikes me as being critical of the top level Democrats.
NYC Rebel
...on the otherside of the pond
I look at this above image of black scholars past while thinking of the current crop of black academics/sports analysts/known writers, you name it and I get sick to my gut. They're all about the spotlight of self, not sharing it or having a healthy debate or disagreement amongst each other.
It's not about the betterment of the people. It's all about crowding the platform for themselves and being the "only negro in the room" where their and their thoughts alone are being heard, not challenged or questioned in a room full of peers.
All these dudes are shyt. There's a great writer on this site who wrote a scathing article which was liked by ones of these "black academics/sports analysts/known writer" types. But instead of using his platform to broadcast the article, this "black academics/sports analysts/known writer" type decided to DM the writer and tell him, "good job."
All of these dudes are about ego and are too arrogant to even challenge each other in a room together. At the end...we lose.
I'm sick of em all.
NYC Rebel
...on the otherside of the pond
West: What is your critique about Obama?
Sharpton: **talks about what Obama needs to do....doesn't critique what he's done**
According to Dyson, it doesnt count since he used a co-writer
Dusty Bake Activate
Fukk your corny debates
AYE AYE!! THIS nikka DYSON GOT THE AK!!!!
THEM MAGAZINES AIN'T FINISHING, WHERE THEY DO THAT AT?!!!!
I'm hungover like shyt, so please excuse my post if it comes off as a bunch of rambling….
The first thought I had when I read the article was "why the fukk is there an article about Cornel West?" In my opinion, the shyt was pointless. Who the fukk really cares about the West-Dyson-Obama feud, in 2015, aside from West, Dyson and Obama?
Secondly, I couldn't read that entire article. shyt was way too fukkn long. I thought I was reading a mini autobiography of West.
I do believe that Dyson made some salient points about Cornel's work ethic and/or academic record one the past 20years. I understand the picture that Dyson creates by juxtaposing Cornel's past and present image in the academic world. I get that.
But I don't think many democrats/progressives who are critics of Obama actually CARED about that part of Cornel's legacy. But Dyson does, because as much as this is a critique of Cornel, it is a validation of Dyson's status.
What it comes down to are 2 things: Does Cornel have the right to levy racial ad-homs at Obama? No - hell fukkn no.
Does Cornel have a right to press everyone who doesn't openly speak about the bankers and military hawks within the White House? Yes. I don't know why people are so hard pressed to understand this? Those of us who truly despise oligarchs, who truly despise war, who truly despise the level of indifference shown for the black/brown/native/chinese experience in the US, will NEVER be okay with people who aren't "peripheral prophets." I don't think Dyson understands this at all, choosing to talk about Wests thoughts on nihilism and celebrity and not his views on war, poverty and the new/old jim crow. In fact, Dyson links us to Wests criticism about Obama using MLK's bible, and that 5minute clip alone trumps this entire article.
How can you be about social uplift and marching for justice, yet canoodle with the architects of the PIC? You're about peace and you model yourself after MLK - yet you know that the Vietnam War was a major issue of his and still remain silent on drone strikes? You believe racism is still alive, you understand that ghettos were social experiments and tools of white supremacy, but when the financial system collapses and black families are the ones disproportionately hit by subprime mortgages, you're still cool hob snubbing with bank execs?
It's gonna be a sight to see when black intellectuals no longer have the level of visibility that they've grown accustomed to over the past 8 years with a black man in the White House. They're in for a rude awakening…..
The first thought I had when I read the article was "why the fukk is there an article about Cornel West?" In my opinion, the shyt was pointless. Who the fukk really cares about the West-Dyson-Obama feud, in 2015, aside from West, Dyson and Obama?
Secondly, I couldn't read that entire article. shyt was way too fukkn long. I thought I was reading a mini autobiography of West.
I do believe that Dyson made some salient points about Cornel's work ethic and/or academic record one the past 20years. I understand the picture that Dyson creates by juxtaposing Cornel's past and present image in the academic world. I get that.
But I don't think many democrats/progressives who are critics of Obama actually CARED about that part of Cornel's legacy. But Dyson does, because as much as this is a critique of Cornel, it is a validation of Dyson's status.
What it comes down to are 2 things: Does Cornel have the right to levy racial ad-homs at Obama? No - hell fukkn no.
Does Cornel have a right to press everyone who doesn't openly speak about the bankers and military hawks within the White House? Yes. I don't know why people are so hard pressed to understand this? Those of us who truly despise oligarchs, who truly despise war, who truly despise the level of indifference shown for the black/brown/native/chinese experience in the US, will NEVER be okay with people who aren't "peripheral prophets." I don't think Dyson understands this at all, choosing to talk about Wests thoughts on nihilism and celebrity and not his views on war, poverty and the new/old jim crow. In fact, Dyson links us to Wests criticism about Obama using MLK's bible, and that 5minute clip alone trumps this entire article.
How can you be about social uplift and marching for justice, yet canoodle with the architects of the PIC? You're about peace and you model yourself after MLK - yet you know that the Vietnam War was a major issue of his and still remain silent on drone strikes? You believe racism is still alive, you understand that ghettos were social experiments and tools of white supremacy, but when the financial system collapses and black families are the ones disproportionately hit by subprime mortgages, you're still cool hob snubbing with bank execs?
It's gonna be a sight to see when black intellectuals no longer have the level of visibility that they've grown accustomed to over the past 8 years with a black man in the White House. They're in for a rude awakening…..
my boy MED at it again 
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Main thing I don't like about Cornell West is he's pro integration.
I believe Dyson's point was that Doc West has a right to do anything he wants; but not without putting in the work nor without he running risks of doing what real progressivists and prophets do. 'Cause, to answer the bolded: the point there wasn't about whether people prefer peripheral prophets vs central prophets. It's obvious the disenfranchised will always prefer the peripheral prophets. But...IF you're willing to be the central prophet (as it appears the Doc wants to be when he gets upset by not being privy to the WH anymore) then you can't just talk to the power holders like you're peripheral otherwise
.In a way I kinda have to agree...when a man is out there running his mouth without putting much at risk his words lose weight. And in that regard Dr. West doen't look that unfamiliar.