The Grizzlies are now 15-2 without Ja Morant this season. 4/1 Update: 20-2!

Joined
May 1, 2012
Messages
1,917
Reputation
30
Daps
1,911
Advanced stats be fukked up sometimes. The only change in the starting lineup is Tyus Jones. And that nikka has a 111.7 rating while Ja has a 111.1. So it makes absolutely no sense for the Grizzlies to be that drastically better when the guy sitting in for Ja has a even worse rating. That might just have to do with the fact that the Grizzlies switch up their style of play when Ja is out.
I think it’s also due to everyone being able to shoot when ja isn’t on the court. They get passive when he starts isoing a lot. The offense just changes but ja is def your panic mode closer in any game
 

ryderldb

Superstar
Joined
May 6, 2012
Messages
17,597
Reputation
3,410
Daps
44,687
Reppin
NULL
They’re just a completely different team without Ja. They lean more on their defense and rebounding and their offense has a lot more motion to it. Theyre not better without Ja especially in the playoffs when you need a superstar if you want to go deep in the playoffs.
 

CHICAGO

VOL. 8: Keys To The Soul
Staff member
Supporter
Joined
May 1, 2012
Messages
36,473
Reputation
9,336
Daps
278,481
Reppin
CHICAGO
Advanced stats be fukked up sometimes. The only change in the starting lineup is Tyus Jones. And that nikka has a 111.7 rating while Ja has a 111.1. So it makes absolutely no sense for the Grizzlies to be that drastically better when the guy sitting in for Ja has a even worse rating. That might just have to do with the fact that the Grizzlies switch up their style of play when Ja is out.



1. TYUS JONES IS A TERRIBLE DEFENDER
AND HES STARTED IN JA'S ABSENCE.

2. DILLON BROOKS THEIR
BEST PERIMETER DEFENDER PLAYED
IN 22 OF THOSE GMS JA MISSED
BUT ONLY PLAYED IN 11 GMS
WITH JA DURING THE REG SEASON
SO THERE GOES YOUR REGULAR
SEASON DEFENSIVE RATING STAT.
:devil:
:evil:

:evil:

:evil:
 

Rhakim

Veteran
Poster of the Year
Supporter
Joined
Jan 5, 2015
Messages
36,168
Reputation
13,883
Daps
145,852
Reppin
Inglewood
Don't blame the site... Don't blame the loading times. Don't blame a captcha. Get your hoe asses in here and explain why the Grizz melted in another 4th quarter without Ja.

So the same team that lost by 30 in their final game with Ja had a chance to win the next 3 games without him? And you're talking like Memphis wasn't up at the end of the game in Game 1 until Ja badly missed three straight layups and a free throw.

No one seriously thinks that a team led by Dillon Brooks and Desmond Bane is superior to the Golden State Warriors. But Memphis did more than enough to prove that they are a very, very good team even when Ja is not on the floor.


Three games with Ja:
+5
-1 (blew the lead late)
-30


Three games without Ja:
+39
-3 (blew the lead late)
-14


And you think we're the ones who have something to explain?
 

Eric Brooks

WORLD CHAMPION ATLANTA BRAVES
Joined
May 1, 2012
Messages
121,142
Reputation
15,411
Daps
415,725
And you think we're the ones who have something to explain?

Yes because games get away from teams in the playoffs.. a blowout can happen on either end. it's the close competitive games where when you need a player to create they can do that on they own and that's Ja.. he put the Warriors in the dirt game 2. They needed him for 4 and 6.

Act as if you've never watched playoff bball before brehs... Lmao

Ja was what 39-10-9 for the three games he played and efficient? And they had nobody to guard him?

LMAO... no they sure couldn't use Ja when Dillon and Co. are putting up contested threes at the ends of these games..
 

Rhakim

Veteran
Poster of the Year
Supporter
Joined
Jan 5, 2015
Messages
36,168
Reputation
13,883
Daps
145,852
Reppin
Inglewood
Yes because games get away from teams in the playoffs.. a blowout can happen on either end. it's the close competitive games where when you need a player to create they can do that on they own and that's Ja.. he put the Warriors in the dirt game 2. They needed him for 4 and 6.

Act as if you've never watched playoff bball before brehs... Lmao

Ja was what 39-10-9 for the three games he played and efficient? And they had nobody to guard him?

LMAO... no they sure couldn't use Ja when Dillon and Co. are putting up contested threes at the ends of these games..


No one has claimed that Ja isn't their best scorer in close games. Yes, he's great when the game gets close. But wouldn't you rather the game not be close?

* This season Memphis had 19 double-digit wins with Ja on the court....and 17 double-digit losses with Ja on the court.

* Meanwhile they had 16 double-digit wins without Ja.....and only THREE double-digit losses without Ja.

19-17 record in blowouts with Ja.....16-3 record in blowouts without Ja.

And it's not like they didn't lose close games with Ja on the court. They lost Game 1 against the Warriors by 1 point with Ja missing his final three layups and a free throw in the last 2 minutes. They lost Game 4 against Minny by 1 point with Ja going 1-3 on layups late and committing a critical turnover.

Being a 50-50 shot to win you a close game doesn't look as good when you're 5x more likely to get blown out. Ja is getting the full benefits of a superstar volume shooter with no defense - when he scores you give him all the credit, when he doesn't score you absolve him of all the blame, and whatever he doesn't do on defense gets ignored regardless.



I'm not saying that Ja's not a great player. I'm not saying that Memphis doesn't need a primary scorer if they want to be a title contender. But what I am saying this that this is a very-very good team even when Ja isn't on the court, and he needs to do a better job of fitting into what they're doing without him and having a positive impact across the board, not just being a one-dimensional offensive player who "might" go off for you when the game is late.
 

Eric Brooks

WORLD CHAMPION ATLANTA BRAVES
Joined
May 1, 2012
Messages
121,142
Reputation
15,411
Daps
415,725
Ja is getting the full benefits of a superstar volume shooter with no defense

Nope.. in the three games he shot over 50% and 40% from the three. GSW have NOBODY that can guard him. He's too fast and athletic in those matchups. They can't get close.. so they give him space. So then he either gets a head full of steam and gets to the rim anyway... draws the defense and passes out or he just shoots given all the space and was hitting them because of how open he was.

Game 3 they lost by 30 but Ja was only -6. i don't generally love +/- as a stat but for game 3 it made sense because he actually shot 13-21 from the field.

The "others" for Memphis shot well under 40% for the field game 3.
 
Last edited:

Gil Scott-Heroin

He, him, his, nxgga
Joined
Apr 30, 2012
Messages
72,762
Reputation
7,185
Daps
189,996
This thread is trash on both sides

Ya didn't watch a Grizz game all year, yet are loud and wrong as fukk
Speaking of loud and wrong:
Grizz shot 39 percent, outrebounded and outscored in the paint in both games, Bane with a bad back. And the best the Warriors could do is a 1-point victory

Grizzlies in 5.

See, I could do that same shoulda coulda woulda goofy shyt you just did
But then again, you've been loud and wrong about the Warriors since 2015, so this comes as no surprise.
 
Top