when it comes to the heatmakerz, it's the opposite of Dilla.
Regular rap listeners who don't make beats think they're shyt is

while most actual producers think they're shyt is
I love the heatmakerz. but whenever i hyped their shyt up to actual producers I normally got the

"this shyt is simplistic as hell"
I don't have the right ear for beats to really tell if what I'm listening to is well-crafted or not. All I can really go on is whether that shyt sounds good, and in that regard the heatmakerz are dope