The House Just Voted to Bankrupt Graduate Students

[acri1]

See, I keep on hearing how democrats are only focused on identity politics, however I barely even see democrats talking about it. I mean the news cycle is mostly dominated by Russiagate, so when is there even time to talk about identity politics? And it's more establishment democrats shouting to the hills about Russia (albeit i think both parties should be doing so). As for the left wing/berniecrats, college education/debt is actually one of their flagship issues. So, the question here really is, why does everyone pile on democrats for all the downright repugnant shyt Republicans are responsible for?

Identity politics is actually an effective way to get votes. It's just that Republicans are much better at it than Dems.

 

[Htrb-nvr-blk-&-ug-as-evr]

This country clearly don’t want an educated population.. it keeps the gop in power

Obviously the orange turd with the bale of hay for hair just wants to make sure the entire populace has less than the 3rd grade education he has. All of this shyt is being proposed and passed and seemingly no one is doing jack about it.

 

[Phoenix Rising]

Obviously the orange turd with the bale of hay for hair just wants to make sure the entire populace has less than the 3rd grade education he has. All of this shyt is being proposed and passed and seemingly no one is doing jack about it. Take the tax reform bill they’re trying to pass... Y’all really gonna believe that this scumbag is trying to help the lower and middle class’ taxes? The same bytch that openly admitted that he’s smart for not paying taxes for 10 years?

Grad school is a waste of time for most people anyway.

People should spend time in the workforce and get actual certifications that teach them things.

Necessity is the mother of invention. All this study is killing innovation.

How America's Education Model Kills Creativity and Entrepreneurship

 

[Htrb-nvr-blk-&-ug-as-evr]

Grad school is a waste of time for most people anyway.

People should spend time in the workforce and get actual certifications that teach them things.

Necessity is the mother of invention. All this study is killing innovation.

How America's Education Model Kills Creativity and Entrepreneurship

Agree to a point, but we still need to foster the intellectuals in society...without them, society cannot advance in medicine, science, etc. Yeah, about 50% of people in grad school probably don’t belong there, but they’re thinking they would rather earn $60k a year sitting on their ass at a desk vs. earning $60k crawling under someone’s funky house fixing pipes...

 

[Phoenix Rising]

Agree to a point, but we still need to foster the intellectuals in society...without them, society cannot advance in medicine, science, etc. Yeah, about 50% of people in grad school probably don’t belong there, but they’re thinking they would rather earn $60k a year sitting on their ass at a desk vs. earning $60k crawling under someone’s funky house fixing pipes...

Most inventions of old weren't developed in university though. As a matter of fact think about all the inventors who dropped out of school, that's even for the sciences.

Liberal arts education in general was created to civilize people to behave a certain way so they could socialize with the upper class, e.g., why there's so much emphasis on literature (especially European) and history (especially European).

That's why you have people who can intellectualize and philosophize but can't change their own tires, or repair things on their own...we've become a society of consumers due to our lack of ability while most of us are so overeducated. Education has worked to increase our wants and needs but not our incomes.

This legislation will most likely dissuade people from grad school as it should because 50% don't even need to be there.

What needs to happen next is a rebranding of labor so people champion it and not look down on it.

 

[Maschine_Man]

Your posts are proof enough, even your avi is another proof, right-wingers specially the alt-right love Nietzsche.

lol, again show me these receipts.

and if you are using a picture as the basis of your claim you need to try harder.


You thinking that Nietchze is some kind of symbol of far-right membership shows you are just as lost as ppl that look at him as some hero for fascism or nationalism (things he was actually against).

regardless, my interest in Nietzsche lies more on the psychology side and was brought to my attention by Carl Jung. (I majored in Psychology...hence my actual screen name).
Ppl havr b*stardized his work for their own agenda forever, and that includes left and right leaning people.

but, I'll let you tell it.

 

[Maschine_Man]

Grad school is a waste of time for most people anyway.

People should spend time in the workforce and get actual certifications that teach them things.

Necessity is the mother of invention. All this study is killing innovation.

How America's Education Model Kills Creativity and Entrepreneurship

I don't necessarily agree (nor disagree). but I will say that Grad school is good for certain people and for certain programs.

many careers REQUIRE at least a Master's degree to start work in the field (Psychology, Social work, etc.) where others careers you can be good to go with for life with just a bachelor's. (Comp-Sci, Nursing, etc.).


people just need to be more realistic about their goals, and find real tangible ways to meet them. not to just arbitrarily follow the crowd and good to grad school cuz everyone else is.

 

[thatrapsfan]

Democrats need to stop focusing on identity politics push something like this to the forefront. Fighting something like this is what wins elections, not making sure people can use whatever bathroom they feel like using. It's bs issues like transgender bathroom use and immigrants stealing minimum wage jobs no one else wanted that the GOP pushes loudly so they can sneak shyt like this by.

This is a cliche take that has been exhausted to death.

 

[Black Hans]

 

[Htrb-nvr-blk-&-ug-as-evr]

Most inventions of old weren't developed in university though. As a matter of fact think about all the inventors who dropped out of school, that's even for the sciences.

Liberal arts education in general was created to civilize people to behave a certain way so they could socialize with the upper class, e.g., why there's so much emphasis on literature (especially European) and history (especially European).

That's why you have people who can intellectualize and philosophize but can't change their own tires, or repair things on their own...we've become a society of consumers due to our lack of ability while most of us are so overeducated. Education has worked to increase our wants and needs but not our incomes.

This legislation will most likely dissuade people from grad school as it should because 50% don't even need to be there.

What needs to happen next is a rebranding of labor so people champion it and not look down on it.

I agree about the possible need for more skills-based Labor, but I’m thinking the illegal labor workforce has that covered. Like I implied earlier, the mindset of the American workforce has changed....they know there’s an illegal contractor that will do that work for pennies on the dollar so why should they learn that?
Concerning your argument of the value of education, in our current times, there are way more highly educated, intelligent, college-educated individuals contributing more for a better way of life than not. Back then, I doubt a bus driver was cruisin down the street and instantly thought of a way to cure small pox. Sure, there are true natural Einsteins born daily, but they are very few and far between. Also, a lot of those old inventors actually started school and learned of concepts that further enhanced their ability to invent.

You knock liberal arts education, but without it, you wouldn’t have culture. So, in the end, I believe all university education is important for the advancement of our society as well as the country/world.

You are right about the cost burden of education today....shouldn’t even be an issue in this country, but the continued capitalization of the education system will be yet another missing screw that will make America collapse...

 

[Recca Gatsby]

I'm broke as shyt and these nikkas talking about bathrooms.

Democrats lost my vote. I used to vote down the party line, I ain't voting for shyt now.

Negged

 

[Berniewood Hogan]

No money from the tuition waivers actually ends up in our pockets, so under Section 117(d)(5), it isn’t counted as taxable income.

But under the House’s tax bill, our waivers will be taxed.

tax people for money they don't even have and then declare you've cut taxes, brehs

 

[88m3]

tax people for money they don't even have and then declare you've cut taxes, brehs

HAHA, stick to the dumb educated lib elites


Theres nothing wrong with having a less educated population

 

[Breh13]

Republicans don’t want a considerably educated America.

 

[DlAMONDZ]

Democrats need to stop focusing on identity politics push something like this to the forefront. Fighting something like this is what wins elections, not making sure people can use whatever bathroom they feel like using. It's bs issues like transgender bathroom use and immigrants stealing minimum wage jobs no one else wanted that the GOP pushes loudly so they can sneak shyt like this by.

It ain't dems fault the american voting populace is full of retards

How many times does the GOP have to fukk shyt up before people realize they're by far one the worst political parties to ever exists?