The idea of "improving yourself" before you approach women is foreign to some men.

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Women get put off by a man who is seen as very "high maintenance" or "pretty" because they want to be with someone who is not more attractive and not having to compete with when it comes to looks.And they hate the reality of other women trying a thing because women will try it with a man who is already in a relationship as non single men are seen as being more valuable.
And hence n why average men who are not bummy and antisocial will have it easy.

There is some truth with what you shared. To add to your point..

I think it comes down to the level of maturity as well as how secure a woman is with herself.

Also, I believe that women across the board like men who are confident within himself as well as those who are charismatic. This is why you may see a man who may not be in the best of shape or even have a high social status pull bad ones.

It really comes down to how one carries oneself which will determine how successful said person is with other people..
 

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People don’t understand that once you get your shyt together doesn’t mean you’ll get women instantly.

It isn’t “get my shyt together, then *poof* all the bytches want me”.

That can work if you get hella clout and fame, but you still gotta stand out if you don’t have those, or unless you plan to trick.

Don’t matter where you at now, it doesn’t hurt to still learn game and talk to women while you work on yourself.

Why wait months or years to talk to women? You losing time learning game.

Imagine how much game you’ll have when you get your shyt together??

Just put women on the backburner, but you don’t need to cut them out completely.
 

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There's a ton of dudes who have their shyt together and still can't get p*ssy. You ain't never seen a lame with 6 figures but still can't talk to women?


Work on yourself, but don't ignore women outright. You strike it rich but can't talk to a woman, what's the point?
 

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I had a job a few years back and a co-worker of mine asked if I had a girlfriend.


I told him "No I'm trying to work on myself right now and safe up some money"


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He literally hit me with the :dwillhuh:

As if to say
"What does any of that have to do with getting women?:dwillhuh:"

It's funny how some of us have these male versions of How Stella Got her Groove Back playing in our heads as motivation to get something that other dudes don't even think twice about

Besides the suspect question, your co-worker just has different mentality.

Sometimes you have to re-set and get right with yourself. If you're not right with yourself, you have no business in a relationship.
 

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"Improve yourself" is a generic blanket term that could mean anything, so it ultimately means nothing.

Does it mean hit the gym? You can go on Reddit and Misc and find dudes who stay in the gym and are still invisible to women.

Does it mean get your money up? Plenty of dudes have money and they just spend it on tricking, escorts, or $1000+ seminars and consultations from PUAs and dating coaches.

Does it mean step your fashion sense up? What are you gonna do--wear an Armani suit every time you go out?

Does it mean get hobbies and read books? That's always a good idea, but that's very rarely addressed in these 'improve yourself' discussions.
 

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"Improve yourself" is a generic blanket term that could mean anything, so it ultimately means nothing.

Does it mean hit the gym? You can go on Reddit and Misc and find dudes who stay in the gym and are still invisible to women.

Does it mean get your money up? Plenty of dudes have money and they just spend it on tricking, escorts, or $1000+ seminars and consultations from PUAs and dating coaches.

Does it mean step your fashion sense up? What are you gonna do--wear an Armani suit every time you go out?

Does it mean get hobbies and read books? That's always a good idea, but that's very rarely addressed in these 'improve yourself' discussions.
I've come to conclude that "improving yourself" means not giving a fukk.

IMO It's just a blank statement to mean change what you don't like, and don't invest too much emotion into things you can't.

I don't think I'm magically going to get women.

Hell I may never get women and die alone.

But that can't be the determining factor to my happiness.

Change what I can change and if I have to objectify women and hire escorts the rest of my life to get a nut off it is what it is.

I'd be more unhappy wishing some dime girl is going to fall into my lap.
 
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