The idea of "improving yourself" before you approach women is foreign to some men.

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Even bums with felons get women ..your right


But hard to get quality women being a bummy ass dude
Most of the time

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This nikka had all the women in the country wanting him when his mugshot dropped.
 

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i think some dudes are improving themselves first because they dont want their shortcomings held up over them

"you was broke and I held you down, I sacrificed my happiness for you"

hell no bytch you had a choice i aint make you do shyt

I know when I was living at my parents, I was tired of having to explain my situation. Some chicks looked down on me.. some appreciated that I owned it but still. That was the most insecure period of my life when it came to dating.
 

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Honestly it got more to do with confidence than anything. The only thing improving yourself do is help your own confidence and life. Bum, fat, ugly nikkas get quality women all the time. They just have the confidence to shoot their shot.


I know for me once I got a good job and started hitting the gym my confidence in myself rose. My self esteem rose. Then naturally I just started pulling more women.


Confidence is a game changer in life.
 

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I and several others already talk about this on the Quick Gems on dealing with women thread...

but yes, most corny/simp/cuck dudes are happy being thirsty loses who haven't learned to love themselves and being the best, you. We need sheep if the wolves are to eat.
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Because he’s right? :gucci:

“Improving yourself” before approaching women is just an excuse as to why you’re too chicken to approach them now. And what exactly is your metric of improvement before you approach? Six pack? Own house? Millionaire? :mjlol:
Eh

Improving yourself coincides with confidence.

If your confidence is shot it's no point in dealing with broads..because that lack of confidence will come out eventually..it's why women consciously and subconsciously test men.
 

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People don’t understand that once you get your shyt together doesn’t mean you’ll get women instantly.

It isn’t “get my shyt together, then *poof* all the bytches want me”.

That can work if you get hella clout and fame, but you still gotta stand out if you don’t have those, or unless you plan to trick.

Don’t matter where you at now, it doesn’t hurt to still learn game and talk to women while you work on yourself.

Why wait months or years to talk to women? You losing time learning game.

Imagine how much game you’ll have when you get your shyt together??

Just put women on the backburner, but you don’t need to cut them out completely.


This.

As you already know, I'm always with self improvement, but like you posted, it never equates to getting laid. You know whats funny though? These cucks and simps know that, we're not speaking Hindu, they genuinely like the spot(s) they're in with women....they like being in the friendzone....they live by "anything is better than nothing" , and while sad, that's fine...they're the ying to our yang, we need the cucks if we're supposed to be wolves. That's why I always say it once, if said person doesn't get it, fukk em, they're not dumb, they just like being lazy fukks.
 

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i think some dudes are improving themselves first because they dont want their shortcomings held up over them

"you was broke and I held you down, I sacrificed my happiness for you"

hell no bytch you had a choice i aint make you do shyt

I know when I was living at my parents, I was tired of having to explain my situation. Some chicks looked down on me.. some appreciated that I owned it but still. That was the most insecure period of my life when it came to dating.


Firstly, I never told a bird where I lived, and who I was living with...information is privileged...they want to get into my club, not the other way around. And if I did mention I was living with my parents, its NY, someone is either living with a relative or a roommate, its expensive as all hell here, so no one really looks down on it. Even so I was always 20% better than the average male, so everything else became irrelevant. That's when I knew, its not about what you have, rather who you are, that people love. Be like David Carusso in Jade and the world opens up to you.
 
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