The Infamous vs Death Certificate

[hex]

Been listening to both a lot to compare. DC bores me, Infamous is an effortless listen. Cube seems to mostly do the whole stop and start/hesitation flow. shyt is slow and simple at times. People act like it's some political masterpiece throughout, it has a lot of dumb shyt too, "Doing Dumb shyt?" "Giving Up The Nappy Dugout?" About fukking minors, nah I don't relate to that. There's a few dope beats, but compared to Infamous? The beats are incredible. And was DC even authentic? Why doesn't he really rap about them topics now? I would take just Survival Of The Fittest, Shook 1s Part 2, and Eye For An Eye over DC

Man....what the fukk?

What kind of logic is being used in this thread? You picked "The Infamous" because you can't relate to a few songs off "DC"....YOU CAN'T RELATE TO ANY SONGS OFF "INFAMOUS".

Maybe "Drink Away The Pain".

Let's be real here. "The Infamous" is a great album but it's the audio equivalent of a "Rambo" movie.

Fred.

 

[The Ruler 09]

"DC".

And @The Ruler 09 you're on crack talking about "world wide it's Infamous". Most people world wide have no idea Mobb Deep exists. They have one plat album in their entire discography, from 15 years ago, and it wasn't "The Infamous".

Fred.

That's not true. You can believe it if you want to though. But people worldwide know Mobb Deep. You think more people know songs on DC than Shook Ones or Survival Of The Fittest? Crazy... Like I said, the youtube views tell the story which IS something worldwide, last time I checked off DC the most viewed songs is at around 600 thousand, off Infamous it's 5 or 6 MILLION.

 

[The Ruler 09]

Case in point again, the 2nd song with the most views on DC on youtube is Giving Up The Nappy Dugout which has 370 thousand ish, Survival Of The Fittest has 3 MILLION. It's not even close...

 

[The Ruler 09]

Man....what the fukk?

What kind of logic is being used in this thread? You picked "The Infamous" because you can't relate to a few songs off "DC"....YOU CAN'T RELATE TO ANY SONGS OFF "INFAMOUS".

Maybe "Drink Away The Pain".

Let's be real here. "The Infamous" is a great album but it's the audio equivalent of a "Rambo" movie.

Fred.

I can relate to a lot of songs off The Infamous. It's not the equivalent of Rambo, it's real shyt. This is easy to break down. Infact Drink Away The Pain is one of the songs I relate to the least as I don't drink... but I get about wanting something to dumb/take away pain/loss/violent environment and drama.

 

[dirty_yo]

Versus threads are lame

 

[The Ruler 09]

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[The Ruler 09]

Like I said, worldwide it's Infamous. There's two different Survival Of The Fittest videos that have more views than ANY song from DC.

 

[hex]

Like I said, worldwide it's Infamous. There's two different Survival Of The Fittest videos that have more views than ANY song from DC.

Son normally you're a good poster but you're going full retard in these Cube vs Mobb Deep threads.

Youtube views? Are you serious with this dumb shyt? Mobb Deep has more Youtube views because their career took off during the rise of the internet. "Death Certificate" came out in '91, before the internet existed in any capacity. There's no reason for people my age to post Cube videos from 23 years ago.

"DC" went plat, "The Infamous" only went gold when NY was at the height of it's power and visibility. Let that sink in. The album wasn't even a major seller on the coast it's from, let alone nation-wide, let alone world-wide.

If Youtube views were any indication of real world visibility Mobb Deep would be more known than Wu-Tang. And nobody in their right mind would argue that, but using your logic "Survival Of The Fittest" has 3 million views vs "Triumph" at 1.2 million....nevermind the fact that one album went gold, and one went 4x plat....no, let's focus on Youtube views.

Fred.

 

[I love Latina women]

death certificate, it ain't even a question

 

[The Ruler 09]

Son normally you're a good poster but you're going full retard in these Cube vs Mobb Deep threads.

Youtube views? Are you serious with this dumb shyt? Mobb Deep has more Youtube views because their career took off during the rise of the internet. "Death Certificate" came out in '91, before the internet existed in any capacity. There's no reason for people my age to post Cube videos from 23 years ago.

"DC" went plat, "The Infamous" only went gold when NY was at the height of it's power and visibility. Let that sink in. The album wasn't even a major seller on the coast it's from, let alone nation-wide, let alone world-wide.

If Youtube views were any indication of real world visibility Mobb Deep would be more known than Wu-Tang. And nobody in their right mind would argue that, but using your logic "Survival Of The Fittest" has 3 million views vs "Triumph" at 1.2 million....nevermind the fact that one album went gold, and one went 4x plat....no, let's focus on Youtube views.

Fred.

It proves that more people talk and hear Infamous nowadays. It's more substantial than any lies others are saying cause these are facts which you can check yourself. I really think some of you guys don't know anyone worldwide or haven't been anywhere. Saying people don't know Mobb Deep is ridiculous as it comes, I know for a FACT they do cause I personally know people worldwide that know Mobb Deep. Infamous is a huge album. I don't even know why people trying to downplay Mobb Deep like that. Much more people talk about Infamous than DC worldwide. Some people have there head so stuck in U.S soil they forget there's a whole wide world out there. That's irrelevant, they are both on youtube, infact I believe most of them Cube songs were posted before The Infamous shyt so.... And Infamous STILL has more views. Not by one or two but by MILLIONS. All this other shyt is fantasy, this is facts. Anyone can go check this for themselves.

This reaching shyt is crazy. Follow The Leader came out in the 80's and the song has 2.5 Million views. So how to account for that? LL Cool J releases from before that have like 8 million and 7 million views. So the time they came out is irrelevant. Tupac All Eyez On Me (I know it came out after) had 16 million views, the song by the way... Ain't No Half Steppin which again came out BEFORE DC has about 1.7 million views. So really the evidence more points to DC being local than Infamous. I know active Hip Hop heads from around the globe. People are clinging on to shyt that is unrealistic. It doesn't mean you can't think DC is a better album, but worldwide people fukk with Infamous more.

Someone said they stopped updating Mobb's sales, a bunch of trustworthy posters said that. So.. another irrelevant point.

The more you continue the more you disprove yourself, cause if your talking about artists instead of albums Wu Tang has shyt with more than 9 million views on youtube. And lots of shyt with 4-5 million. No-one saying ICE CUBE isn't huge... Cube is a legend and an icon and a superstar, but when your talking about the ALBUM DC. It isn't as widely fukked with as Infamous.

 

[MaNu Minu]

Death Certificate by a nice large margin

 

[mobbinfms]

If you never felt the depression of growing up in the hood you cant truly appreciate the greatness of the infamous anyway There are some legitimate criticisms of The Infamous, repetitive beats being one, beats that aged far better than DC production but never the less a legitimate gripe, but anyone dismissing it as just a bunch of generic empty gangsta rap doesn't know what they're talking about. The album is every bit as socially reflective as DC, it just doesn't have the opinions & sideline observations because they was in it, while Cube was a nikka on the outside looking in, which makes it better than DC imo. The emotional connection is there with Infamous that just isn't with DC. Infamous captures the combination of anger, depression & hopelessness of the lost & ostracized adolescents in the ghetto in a way that no album ever has in the history of music. Album should be a point of reference for sociologists, album should be preserved for historians, the music & poetry on infamous is as significant and potent as on 'Strange Fruit', this is the 1990's version of Strange Fruit.

Best post of the thread so far!

 

[mobbinfms]

"DC".

And @The Ruler 09 you're on crack talking about "world wide it's Infamous". Most people world wide have no idea Mobb Deep exists. They have one plat album in their entire discography, from 15 years ago, and it wasn't "The Infamous".

Fred.

In terms of Japan and parts of Europe, I've always been under the impression that they live and die by boom bap, jazzy NY shyt. It would make sense that Infamous would be bigger there. No clue about the rest of the world. Not sure how we could ever quantify this going off US sales numbers either.

 

[mobbinfms]

Man....what the fukk?

What kind of logic is being used in this thread? You picked "The Infamous" because you can't relate to a few songs off "DC"....YOU CAN'T RELATE TO ANY SONGS OFF "INFAMOUS".

Maybe "Drink Away The Pain".

Let's be real here. "The Infamous" is a great album but it's the audio equivalent of a "Rambo" movie.

Fred.

Whether you can relate or not, they make you feel it.

 

[mobbinfms]

Son normally you're a good poster but you're going full retard in these Cube vs Mobb Deep threads.

Youtube views? Are you serious with this dumb shyt? Mobb Deep has more Youtube views because their career took off during the rise of the internet. "Death Certificate" came out in '91, before the internet existed in any capacity. There's no reason for people my age to post Cube videos from 23 years ago.

"DC" went plat, "The Infamous" only went gold when NY was at the height of it's power and visibility. Let that sink in. The album wasn't even a major seller on the coast it's from, let alone nation-wide, let alone world-wide.

If Youtube views were any indication of real world visibility Mobb Deep would be more known than Wu-Tang. And nobody in their right mind would argue that, but using your logic "Survival Of The Fittest" has 3 million views vs "Triumph" at 1.2 million....nevermind the fact that one album went gold, and one went 4x plat....no, let's focus on Youtube views.

Fred.

Both Mobb and Cube blew up pre internet. In any event - YouTube is what, at most ten years old?

I'm hesitant to rely on YouTube views, but it has to mean something right? We can't just ignore the fact that far more people are clicking on Infamous YouTube videos as opposed to DC. The question is what weight to give the evidence. To me - it stands as evidence that the Infamous is held in much higher regard than you might realize. People clicking are either going back to something from their past or seeking out the music for the first time.