The “Islamic Dilemma” conversation on PIERS MORGAN?

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THIS IS A COTDAMN LIE LMAOOOO

ARAB MILITIAS WERE ALWAYS THE AGGRESSORS PRE-1947




You have simple comprehension failures. Do some research please, you are coming across like an imbecile.

Jews have killed or supported the killing of millions of muslims within our lifetime, and many before our time. If you want to refute it, bring me evidence (we know you cant, you stil havent answered why the jews followed the Moors out of spain - in fact you showed that you didnt even know anything about that).

I suggest you just take the L like @DoubleClutch and keep it moving
 

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You have simple comprehension failures. Do some research please, you are coming across like an imbecile.

Jews have killed or supported the killing of millions of muslims within our lifetime, and many before our time. If you want to refute it, bring me evidence (we know you cant, you stil havent answered why the jews followed the Moors out of spain - in fact you showed that you didnt even know anything about that).

I suggest you just take the L like @DoubleClutch and keep it moving


JEWS WERE EXPELLED FROM SPAIN DUMMY LOLLLLLL

JEWS HAVE NEVER BEEN THE AGGRESSORS.. ANY JEW AGGRESSION HAS BEEN IN DEFENSE

PROVE ME WRONG
 

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JEWS WERE EXPELLED FROM SPAIN DUMMY LOLLLLLL

JEWS HAVE NEVER BEEN THE AGGRESSORS.. ANY JEW AGGRESSION HAS BEEN IN DEFENSE

PROVE ME WRONG

Are you intentionally stupid? You still fail to answer why they followed the Moors? Tell me, where did they stay? Ill allow you to run to gemini again like a little bytch, as we know that you have zero historical knowledge :pachaha:

Jews are bloodthirsty aggressors, factually. See the millions killed in the middle east over the las 3 decades. . . . Retard
 

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Are you intentionally stupid? You still fail to answer why they followed the Moors? Tell me, where did they stay? Ill allow you to run to gemini again like a little bytch, as we know that you have zero historical knowledge :pachaha:

Jews are bloodthirsty aggressors, factually. See the millions killed in the middle east over the las 3 decades. . . . Retard


JEWS WERE EXPELLED BY CHRISTIANS BUT ALLOWED TO STAY ON MUSLIM LAND AS SECOND CLASS CITIZENS U IDIOT

THAT DOESNT MEAN IT WAS ALL PEACHES N CREAM

:snoop:

JEWS HAVE NO REASON TO BE BLOODTHIRSTY U COTDAMN MORON

IF JEWS WERENT SURROUNDED BY A SEA OF NATIONS THAT DONT WANT US TO HAVE A LAND IN THE REGION, THERE WOULD BE ZERO REASON FOR JEWS TO BE HEAVY HANDED IN DEFENSE

COMMON SENSE NOT SO COMMON WIT U JIHADIST APOLOGISTS
 

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JEWS WERE EXPELLED BY CHRISTIANS BUT ALLOWED TO STAY ON MUSLIM LAND AS SECOND CLASS CITIZENS U IDIOT

THAT DOESNT MEAN IT WAS ALL PEACHES N CREAM

:snoop:

JEWS HAVE NO REASON TO BE BLOODTHIRSTY U COTDAMN MORON

IF JEWS WERENT SURROUNDED BY A SEA OF NATIONS THAT DONT WANT US TO HAVE A LAND IN THE REGION, THERE WOULD BE ZERO REASON FOR JEWS TO BE HEAVY HANDED IN DEFENSE

COMMON SENSE NOT SO COMMON WIT U JIHADIST APOLOGISTS

You're getting there now, Zionist scum fakkit - so as you say, they were protected by the Moors then :mjgrin:

You blood thirsty zionist fakkit "IF" . . . *proceeds to blame others for the reason illegal jewish/zionist settlers support the killing of millions of their neighbours that took them in from christian massacres*


Yeah, you should probably step away and take the L, you looking real dumb out here :snoop:
 

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You're getting there now, Zionist scum fakkit - so as you say, they were protected by the Moors then :mjgrin:

You blood thirsty zionist fakkit "IF" . . . *proceeds to blame others for the reason illegal jewish/zionist settlers support the killing of millions of their neighbours that took them in from christian massacres*


Yeah, you should probably step away and take the L, you looking real dumb out here :snoop:

U DONT EVEN REALIZE THAT U SHIITIN ON YASELF HERE

SO BASED ON YOUR OWN IDEOLOGY, THERE IS NO OPPRESSION AGAINST ARABS IN ISRAEL SINCE THERE IS 2 MILLION ARABS WHO LIVE THERE AS ISRAELI CITIZENS WITH FULL RIGHTS (25% OF THE POPULATION, PROTECTED UNDER JEWISH LAW)


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the fact it's called IslamoPHOBIA - like it's just some irrational fear that you can't help, shows how normalized and mainstream it has been for decades.

I’d rather call it “Muhammadphobia” :manny:

If I ever saw him in real life, I’d turn around and run the other way.
The descriptions of him are :sadcam:

He used to bathe in sewage? And his clothing had semen stains:damn:


It was said: 'O Messenger of Allah, you perform Wudu' from the well into which the bodies of dogs, menstrual rags and garbage are thrown?' He said: 'Water is pure and it is not made impure by anything.'"

I asked `Aisha about the clothes soiled with semen. She replied, "I used to wash it off the clothes of Allah's Messenger (ﷺ) and he would go for the prayer while water spots were still visible. "


But who am I to judge?:whoa:
I’m just a mere human man and he is the “greatest example for all mankind” according to Muslims :hubie:
 

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Verses 28–29 refer to premarital sex (not rape, in the Hebrew) with an unbetrothed virgin. The verb used is taphas (seize) and shakab (lie with), often interpreted as seduction or force without her being pledged. The punishment is financial and obligates marriage meant to protect the woman from abandonment in a patriarchal society.

This does not apply to modern Christian ethics, these were civil laws for ancient Israel not prescriptions for Christian practice.

Jesus fulfilled the Law (Matthew 5:17), and the New Covenant does not mandate these punishments.



In our legal system, the offense is against the woman; the essence of the crime is the fact that the woman has not consented to the sexual act. In the Deuteronomic family laws, the offense is seen first of all as a violation of the claims of the man who controls the woman's sexuality. The essence of the offense is that the man's claims have been violated. The seriousness of the crime is determined by the nature of the man's claims. Sexual intercourse with a married or betrothed woman is a capital offense whether or not the woman has consented. Sexual intercourse with an unbetrothed girl is a minor offense whether or not the girl has consented. The woman's consent or lack of consent comes into play in determining whether she, as well as the male offender, is guilty of the violation of the claims of her husband, prospective husband, or father. (p37, footnote)
I would like to add that the LXX seems to strengthen the claim that the sex is not consensual:

ἐὰν δέ τις εὕρῃ τὴν παῖδα τὴν παρθένον ἥτις οὐ μεμνήστευται καὶ βιασάμενος κοιμηθῇ μετ’ αὐτῆς καὶ εὑρεθῇ...

Literally:

"If anyone finds a girl, a virgin, who is not pledged to be married, and lies with her forcing (her), and he is discovered..."
 

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Brother D.C. is relentless with these threads. :laugh:
Just doing the “lords work” brother :youngsabo:

Good practice for me at the least for when I might encounter a Muslim with some actual knowledge….. which has happened

It didn’t end well for them either :unimpressed:
 

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My guy

These are not new arguments you are coming up with.

Are trolling or asking serious questions?

Deuteronomy 22:28–29 doesn’t use the Hebrew word typically associated with rape (anah), and instead uses taphas (seize) and shakab (lay with), which in most times refer to premarital sex or seduction, not violent assault. That’s why the punishment is marriage and a fine and not death as in the rape case a few verses earlier (Deut. 22:25–27), where the woman cries for help and the man is executed.

The septs choice of “biasamenos” in this passage is a Greek wording choice not the original Hebrew.
 

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ILL START BY SAYING THIS DUDE IS NOT A REAL RABBI LOL .. DUDE NOT EVEN COVERING HIS HEAD, CMON NOW

BUT I DONT DISAGREE WITH HIM

ISLAM AT ITS PUREST IS NOT ANTI-SEMITIC

ALTHO IT DOES PAINT NON-MUSLIMS AS SECOND CLASS CITIZENS

SO HISTORICALLY, WHEN JEWS WERE LESS SUBSERVIENT TO MUSLIMS THAN THEY LIKED, THATS WHEN THE VIOLENCE WOULD HAPPEN
 

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My guy

These are not new arguments you are coming up with.

Are trolling or asking serious questions?

Deuteronomy 22:28–29 doesn’t use the Hebrew word typically associated with rape (anah), and instead uses taphas (seize) and shakab (lay with), which in most times refer to premarital sex or seduction, not violent assault. That’s why the punishment is marriage and a fine and not death as in the rape case a few verses earlier (Deut. 22:25–27), where the woman cries for help and the man is executed.

The septs choice of “biasamenos” in this passage is a Greek wording choice not the original Hebrew.
You seem very well versed on the Old Testament :ehh:

Do you speak Hebrew as well? :ohhh:
 
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