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I have a full time job, you fatherless zio fakkit :dead: .

You clearly cannot understand simple mathematics. I have not disagreed that Mizrahis identify as Sephardis due to customs, hence the number is around 55% of israeli jews identifying as Mizrahi/Sephardic. . . I have said the approximate proportion of actual diaspora Sephardis (ie. the ones who have roots in the iberian peninsula) is around 20-25% of Israeli jews . . .now if you add that to the 30-40% of jews in Israel who are ashkeNAZIs, you find out that the majority are Euro heritage jews (ie. 50% or more). YOU fukkING MORON :martin::mjgrin:

Why do i have to keep schooling your dumb ass? Have some shame and read a book, clown


ARE U RETARDED? THESE ARE JEWS WHO SETTLED IN SPAIN POST EXILE

THEY ARE NOT OF SPANISH ANCESTRY LOLLLLL

SEPHARDIC JEWS WHO SETTLED IN SPAIN STILL HAVE ROUGHLY THE SAME AMOUNT OF MIDDLE EASTERN DNA AS MIZRAHI JEWS WHO SETTLED IN ARAB COUNTRIES

I KNOW THIS IS A HARD CONCEPT FOR YOU TO GRASP, BUT THATS WHAT IM HERE FOR
 

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I explained, and you should be able to deduce, I am (as all muslims are) quran only, and the strongest chain of hadiths.
I see you couldn’t leave out “and the strongest chain of Hadiths” :snoop:

Just be transparent 100%

Clearly you rely on the Hadiths which are the “words of men” and fallible

You have no ground to criticize the gospels or New Testament writings which historically are more reliable regarding Jesus than Hadiths are regarding Muhammad

The New Testament documents were written closer to the lifetime of Jesus by people who lived during Jesus lifetime/generation or who were contemporary of the time.

The Hadiths were passed down by hearsay and only written hundreds of years later after Muhammad recorded death

“Hadiths” didn’t even exist at the time of “Muhammad” alleged life.

If the Quran is the perfect clear and complete WORD OF GOD delivered to mankind as a “BOOK” there is no need for any supplemental documentation to add to or explain it further

I’m no Muslims but seems to me the Hadiths are what makes ISLAM a joke.

Not only because the contents of the Hadiths are questionable but the FACT THAT THEY ARE MORE AUTHORITATIVE THAN THE QURAN for most Muslims.

If I was a Muslim I wouldn’t want some man’s interpretation or random writers literally “putting words in Muhammad’s mouth” especially if this WORD is supposed to be attributed to GOD verbatim and LAW by the LETTER.

This literally gives man (the Hadith writers) the power of GOD on earth.

And it allows man to CORRUPT Gods alleged message.

Isn’t this SHIRK?
 

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ONCE AGAIN, U TINFOIL DUNCE.. THERES ALREADY MASS AMOUNTS OF GENETIC TESTING ON JEWISH DNA. THATS NOT SOMETHING U CAN HIDE.. AND GUESS WHAT, IT ALL TRACES BACK TO THE LEVANT REGION LOL

AND YES. IN HOME KITS ARE ALSO RESTRICTED IN COUNTRIES SUCH AS FRANCE.. FOR SECURITY REASONS. U CAN STILL ORDER A 23ANDME IN ISRAEL, ITS NOT OUTRIGHT BANNED... YOUR FAR OUT CONSPIRACY THEORIES ARE CLASSIC ANTI SEMITIC TROPES. MAKES U LOOK VERY DUMB.

BTW IVE HAD A TEST DONE.. 80% NORTH AFRICA/WEST ASIA (MIDDLE-EASTERN)

STAY MAD HOE

I literally shared an article explaining how you Zio-cacs are shook to allow ancestry tests in Israel, you haven't been able to refute that. Deal with the facts you moron :heh:

No one is believing your Hasbara bullshyt anymore, you antisemitic piece of shyt
 

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ARE U RETARDED? THESE ARE JEWS WHO SETTLED IN SPAIN POST EXILE

THEY ARE NOT OF SPANISH ANCESTRY LOLLLLL

SEPHARDIC JEWS WHO SETTLED IN SPAIN STILL HAVE ROUGHLY THE SAME AMOUNT OF MIDDLE EASTERN DNA AS MIZRAHI JEWS WHO SETTLED IN ARAB COUNTRIES

I KNOW THIS IS A HARD CONCEPT FOR YOU TO GRASP, BUT THATS WHAT IM HERE FOR
Are you fukking dumb? In that case, there is no such thing as ashkeNAZI as they have a fraction of a % of middle Eastern DNA too you dunce :heh:

I can also claim my place in the levant because my ancestor's DNA has traces from the middle East. You really are that stupid aren't you???!

Why do I have to keep schooling you like this. What level of further education did you achieve? Or did you crash out during primary school :dead:
 

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I literally shared an article explaining how you Zio-cacs are shook to allow ancestry tests in Israel, you haven't been able to refute that. Deal with the facts you moron :heh:

No one is believing your Hasbara bullshyt anymore, you antisemitic piece of shyt

"CHATGPT IS HASBARA!" LMAOOOO

THIS IDIOT HAS NO IDEA HOW STUPID HE WOULD SOUND IN EDUCATED CIRCLES

HE'S EVEN TRYNA HIJACK THE TERM ANTI-SEMITIC NOW

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SOME MORE SCHOOL FOR U, MY DUMB FRIEND

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Are you fukking dumb? In that case, there is no such thing as ashkeNAZI as they have a fraction of a % of middle Eastern DNA too you dunce :heh:

I can also claim my place in the levant because my ancestor's DNA has traces from the middle East. You really are that stupid aren't you???!

Why do I have to keep schooling you like this. What level of further education did you achieve? Or did you crash out during primary school :dead:


HILARIOUS THAT SOMEONE LIKE U, WHOS ENTIRE IDEOLOGY IS ROOTED IN CONSPIRACY AND LACKS CREDIBLE SOURCING, HAS THE NERVE TO QUESTION EDUCATION

ASHKENAZI JEWS ARE CALLED ASHKENAZI BECAUSE THE REGIONS IN EUROPE WHERE THEY SETTLED WERE CALLED ASHKENAZ .... HIGHLIGHTING THE NAZI PART IS MORE CLASSIC ANTI-SEMITISM ON YOUR BEHALF

ASHKENAZI GENETICS ABSOLUTELY TRACE TO THE LEVANT

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THIS IS ACTUALLY INCREDIBLE WHEN YOU THINK ABOUT IT, CONSIDERING THEY SPENT THOUSANDS OF YEARS IN EUROPE POST EXILE
 

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This is a good breakdown of the “Islamic dilemma”:ehh:

When she called Islam “Revisionist fiction”:banderas:
 

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I literally shared an article explaining how you Zio-cacs are shook to allow ancestry tests in Israel, you haven't been able to refute that. Deal with the facts you moron :heh:

No one is believing your Hasbara bullshyt anymore, you antisemitic piece of shyt

The area Israel now occupies was once part of Africa for many millenia..it was populated by dark skinned Africans whom were Indigenous to the area.

The White Jew and Arab are recent historic arrivals in that area, and displaced the Indigenous African populations there.
They didn't just invade and displace Africans in North Africa, but what's now considered the "Middle East".
That's why those Edomites won't allow genetic genealogy testing.


Archaeologists Unearth Two Rare African Figurines in 1,500-Year-Old Christian Burials in Israel

The artifacts were buried in the graves of a young woman and child, who may have converted to Christianity in Africa before traveling to the region, researchers say

Archaeologists Unearth Two Rare African Figurines in 1,500-Year-Old Christian Burials in Israel

The artifacts were buried in the graves of a young woman and child, who may have converted to Christianity in Africa before traveling to the region, researchers say
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This ebony figurine was found in a child's grave. Dafna Gazit / Israel Antiquities Authority

Archaeologists in Israel have found two tiny African figurines buried in early Christian graves. Dating back roughly 1,500 years, the artifacts are carved from rare ebony wood that originated in India or Sri Lanka.

The burials are located in a necropolis in Tel Malhata, an archaeological site in the Negev desert. Humans have occupied Tel Malhata since the Middle Bronze Age, and hundreds of graves have been found in the cemetery.

According to new research published in ‘Atiqot, the journal of the Israel Antiquities Authority (IAA), three of those graves belonged to two women and a child who died in the sixth or seventh century C.E. These burials contained a trove of grave goods—including bronze jewelry, alabaster jars and five carved figurines.




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The ebony figurines are quite rare, while the bone figurines are more common for the region. Dafna Gazit / Israel Antiquities Authority
“It is a very special find,” Noé D. Michael, an archaeologist at the IAA and the University of Cologne in Germany, tells Haaretz’s Ruth Schuster.

Three of the five figurines were made from bone, and the researchers say that bone artifacts of this kind were commonly used in domestic rituals and burials in the region. However, the two others are quite rare. They were carved from ebony, and they depict a man and woman with “typical African features,” per the study.

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This ebony figurine was found in a young woman's grave. Dafna Gazit / Israel Antiquities Authority
“As far as we know, no such figurine had ever been identified in Israel, Jordan [or] our region,” Michael tells the Times of Israel’s Rossella Tercatin.

During the sixth and seventh centuries, Tel Malhata stood at the intersection of major trading routes “where merchants from southern Arabia, India and Africa passed,” according to a statement from the IAA. The grave goods reflect this international exchange. Ebony, a kind of dark wood, was a valuable import.

“Experts at Tel Aviv University tested the wood and confirmed it came from India or Sri Lanka,” Michael tells the Times of Israel. “An ebony trade between Asia and Egypt and the Horn of Africa is attested starting from the fourth century C.E.”

The two ebony figurines were found in the graves of a woman who died between the ages of 20 and 30 and a child who died between the ages of 6 and 8. In the statement, the researchers explain that the artifacts could have been “intimate personal items carrying with them a story of identity, tradition and memory.” Each figurine features a small hole through which a cord might have been threaded, allowing the owner to wear it around their neck.

“Since the tombs were close and presented the same kind of burial gifts, they were probably a mother and a child,” Michael tells the Times of Israel. “Unfortunately, we could not extract DNA remains from the bones to run a test.” :mjpls:

Two of the bone figurines were also found in these burials. The third was discovered in the tomb of a woman who died between the ages of 18 and 21. The team thinks these individuals may have traveled north from Africa, where conversion to Christianity was becoming increasingly common.

As the researchers say in the statement, “It is possible that the figures represent ancestors, and thus they reflect traditions passed down from generation to generation—even after the adoption of the Christian religion.”
 
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