The Israeli Perspective: The Middle East Problem

[Kritic]

Ahhh the Captain Save a Hoe brigade is out in full force lately.

Palestine was never a nation. There is no such thing as Palestinian people. They are Jordanians. The land has been home to multiple races, religion, and nations over the years. The Jews were in that land at least three different time periods. Saying its "Palestinian" land is a joke especially when "Palestinians" aren't from there. For you nitwits, that means the Jews didn't take land from them since they didn't own it or belong there either. And don't try to give me that bullshyt that its all Euro-Jews that moved there. Theres been Jewish communities in Israel for thousands of years. Ya know, those "Real Jews" that even the crazy Hebrew Israelite idiots would claim are real Jews.

Israel has consistently given back land for peace. Its not a hard concept to understand unless you've been brainwashed by militants like Hamas, PLO, Hezbelloh, etc. fukk every one of those organizations and anyone that supports them. The best line in the clip was what would happen if each side laid down their arms. It tells you everything you need to know about who you're dealing with. The Israelis and the region would gain PEACE if Hamas etc laid down their arms. However, if the Israelis do it, it means their annihilation. Civilized people >>>> Savages

If you question why Israel takes the rash actions that it does today, look no further than the two original wars. How are you going to react when all your neighbors are gunning for you? For all of you blacks that think you've had it hard and have been oppressed since the day you were born, well guess what, Israel feels the same way, literally. Since the day of its founding, Israel has been under attack by the entire region. Everyone wants horrible shyt to happen including mass death while all Israel wants is peace.



Jews didn't have a hand in the Arab Spring. The shytty culture, oppression, and infestation of extremism caused the Arab Spring. Blame Jews for the bullshyt that Arabs created for themselves, breh.

powerful performance...

i was moved.

 

[Serious]

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Breh, you can just click "Watch thread" above now.

 

[Serious]

Them boys is watching.

Word I might have to start disassociating myself from this site before I get that knock on the door...

 

[FAH1223]

The bottom line is, a 2 state solution isn't possible and will never happen.

That land must be one state. One vote, equal rights for all.

Israel is going to isolate itself further and the occupation with settler activity is going to create a South Africa type of dynamic.

Israel is it's own nightmare. And they have had their cake and ate it too. But it can only be done to a point.

Fatah has tried to surrender for years and it's clear Israel gets nothing for it.

 

[ill]

The bottom line is, a 2 state solution isn't possible and will never happen.

That land must be one state. One vote, equal rights for all.

Israel is going to isolate itself further and the occupation with settler activity is going to create a South Africa type of dynamic.

Israel is it's own nightmare. And they have had their cake and ate it too. But it can only be done to a point.

Fatah has tried to surrender for years and it's clear Israel gets nothing for it.

Why do you view a two-state solution as impossible?

 

[Gains]

Why do you view a two-state solution as impossible?

Isreali expansion

 

[ill]

Isreali expansion

Two-state solution means hard lines are drawn in the sand to make legitimate borders. Encroachment with hard borders would be much harder for Israel to pull off, which IMO means that they wouldn't encroach.

 

[Malta]

Why do you view a two-state solution as impossible?

Ethnic cleansing is going well, why bother with a two state solution when everyone is perfectly fine with you murdering folks left and right

 

[ill]

Ethnic cleansing is going well, why bother with a two state solution when everyone is perfectly fine with you murdering folks left and right

Because Israelis and Jews in general are not as barbaric as Arabs. Peace and security is all Jews want. Total annihilation is what Arabs want and they don't shy away from telling you that.

 

[Gains]

Two-state solution means hard lines are drawn in the sand to make legitimate borders. Encroachment with hard borders would be much harder for Israel to pull off, which IMO means that they wouldn't encroach.

except when the UN looks the other way

 

[Gains]

Because Israelis and Jews in general are not as barbaric as Arabs. Peace and security is all Jews want. Total annihilation is what Arabs want and they don't shy away from telling you that.

with this way of thinking no one can have serious dialogue

 

[FAH1223]

Why do you view a two-state solution as impossible?

breh look at the facts on the ground

The Palestinians don't control the West Bank outside a few cities. There's nearly half a million settlers who are radicalized and protected by the IDF.

The Israelis aren't going to let the Palestinians control their own land militarily.

Fatah has been trying to surrender for years now, Israel always making excuses because in the end they still have to limit settlements and to give some limited rights to the Palestinians.

The Palestinians are by and large disillusioned politically. The West Bank is basically all settlements with no real Palestinian foothold. ANy peace treaty won't answer the questions of Palestinian refugees and kicking the settlers out. The two state solution is dead. Israel subsidizes settler expansion.

I doubt they will ever get to an agreement where they kick those people out as they did in Sinai in the 1980s and Gaza in 2005.

But one state is Israel's worst nightmare because they would effectively have a South Africa scenario where they would implement 'seperate but equal' policies where Palestinians are not full citizens and remain in cities and ghettos that pale in comparison to the living conditions in Israel...

Ehud Olmert has come out and said they face a South Africa situation without a 2 state solution.

And Netyanhu is not even pretending to support a two state solution anymore now. Israeli politics has shifted even more right wing and more extreme.

This whole thing isn't sustainable.

Infact the entire "peace process" was an attempt for Arafat and the elite in the PLO to lie to their people and give up the dream of a real and independent viable state... all they wanted out of the process was some concessions from the Israelis to make it look convincing to the Palestinian people.

A success culmination of what started in Madrid and what both Rabin and Arafat wanted would have created a fake Palestinian state, one essentially still an Israeli colonial possession but they would have made it look really good and fool the people, the Gulf States and Egypt were 100% behind it, only the nationalist factions in the PLO and Hamas would have been against it, but part of the deal would have been a police state like other Arab countries and they would have been suppressed in cooperation with Shin Bet.

All this derailed when Rabin died and Likud killed the process with foot dragging, Hamas suicide bombings and rockets helped as well,
but in essence the plan failed because the Israelis believed that they could have their cake and eat it, and they have...

 

[Malta]

Because Israelis and Jews in general are not as barbaric as Arabs. Peace and security is all Jews want. Total annihilation is what Arabs want and they don't shy away from telling you that.

Oh, my bad for taking you seriously, thank you for clearing it up and now letting me know your opinion is bushes status.

 

[ill]

with this way of thinking no one can have serious dialogue

I'm not sure if you follow the news or not, but the Arab world hasn't been very civilized in the past few years.

Oh, my bad for taking you seriously, thank you for clearing it up and now letting me know your opinion is bushes status.

Prove me otherwise in this day and age. I'm not in denial about Israeli war crimes or the despicable treatment of African refugees. Theres work to be done but in the grand scheme of things, Jews > Arabs. Not even close and I'm not sorry for saying it. The great Muslims of the past that gave us mathematics and other advanced studies are not the same Muslims that are causing chaos in the world today.