The Israeli Perspective: The Middle East Problem

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From your own link:

"Genetic analysis suggests that a majority of the Muslims of Palestine, inclusive of Arab citizens of Israel, are descendants ofChristians, Jews and other earlier inhabitants of the southern Levant whose core may reach back to prehistoric times."

So you're telling me it was the Jews land after all?

Sounds like spin. :beli:

I don't know how those researchers reached the conclusion that the Palestinians Arabs are descended from "Christians and Jews" as opposed to Muslim Arabs in the Levant , which is what they are today. How do the researchers know the Arabs back then were Christians and Jews? And even if they were, if those ancestors were Arabs, then the land still belongs to the Palestinians regardless of their religion. Similarly Russia belongs to Russia regardless of whether the Russians practiced Buddhism 100 years ago.

I have an Israeli friend and she tells me a lot of the people in Israel today aren't even Jews. :beli:
 
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Being Muslim isn't ethnic :sas2:

Jews turn Muslim everyday b :sas1:

And there's plenty of Arab Jews :wtf:

i have a syrian arab jew older bud who is republican. and another one bud who's an iraqi jew. they don't know each other.

the syrian thought he was down with the rethugs and was pro-iraqi war until barack got his country all fuqqed up. he hates democrats and hates blacks. he hardly comes around to hang with the boys anymore :heh:. one of them cacs is a democrat so they keep their talk and hate on niccas but once i come around they tone it down...


the iraqi arab jew older bud. he looks and sounds exactly like netanyahu. he's just a business man and doesn't really care about politics and religion/islam like that. i don't know him too long. my relationship with all of them is strictly business.
the iraqi jew is a cool old man. he fuq with everyone and hustles with everyone. he doesn't have to. he's rich. the syrian jew is a rich mf too but he's a fuqqed up individual in the head. even though i'm anti-syrian war, i laugh at how it humbled him...
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one time he pulled me to the side to talk about the syrian war cause he knows i don't agree with the war monger rethug cacs but he don't like niccas so i just :leostare: him. i guess he needed a shoulder to cry on.
 

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First of all, yeah I'm sure its pretty easy for this guy to explain the situation when you tell only one side of the story. :usure:

I was gon make a thread on this but I think it's better I make my comment in here. I know this is idealism to the umpteenth power and may never happen, but at this rate this land needs to become one neutral secular state for all religions. Not exclusively Jewish, Muslim, Arab, whatever. I know that's much easier said than done, but a two state solution just won't happen and it's no way Jews are going to be moved off the land and neither will Palestinians. Instead of this stick your head in the sand and hope it solves itself approach that leaders in the west like to do, they should right the wrongs of the past. I'm not even suggesting that zionists should be punished for having been more organized than the Arabs in their mission for a Jewish state, but at this point the shyt has become a conflict of interest and prevents long term peace. What point is there for all this constant tension and on again off again killing and wonton destruction? The narrative being so slanted in Israel's favor is one of the worst things in all this, nothin will be solved as long as we let the Israelis have a carte blanche to do as they wish in the Palestinian territories.

When the Palestinians were in control the holy land was a peaceful country where christians jews and muslims all lived in harmony free to practice their respective religions.
 

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When the Palestinians were in control the holy land was a peaceful country where christians jews and muslims all lived in harmony free to practice their respective religions.
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When the Palestinians were in control the holy land was a peaceful country where christians jews and muslims all lived in harmony free to practice their respective religions.

That's not reality. It was better than it is now but lived in harmony is nonsense.
 

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That's not reality. It was better than it is now but lived in harmony is nonsense.

How is it non sense?

My parents were born in free palestine and had jewish christian neighbors and everyone was living peacefully. When have the palestinians ever destroyed homes churches synagogues etc?

Palestine was never a military state until it was occupied by the zionists & the west.
 

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How is it non sense?

My parents were born in free palestine and had jewish christian neighbors and everyone was living peacefully. When have the palestinians ever destroyed homes churches synagogues etc?

Palestine was never a military state until it was occupied by the zionists & the west.

Free Palestine? I thought they had been pretty much under the Dominion of Israel, UK and Ottoman Empire for the last few hundred years?

Anyway, Harmony implies lack of any significant issues among the population. There was definitely that. Not anyway near the level of post-WW2 violence though, so I'll give you that.

It would be akin to me saying I have black friends and neighbors so there is racial harmony in America. Also, aren't there Mosques, churches in Israel? And practicing Muslims and Christians in Israel? Just asking friend.
 

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Free Palestine? I thought they had been pretty much under the Dominion of Israel, UK and Ottoman Empire for the last few hundred years?

Anyway, Harmony implies lack of any significant issues among the population. There was definitely that. Not anyway near the level of post-WW2 violence though, so I'll give you that.

It would be akin to me saying I have black friends and neighbors so there is racial harmony in America. Also, aren't there Mosques, churches in Israel? And practicing Muslims and Christians in Israel? Just asking friend.

Were we killing innocents? Were we depriving jews? Were we bulldozing homes? Were we uprooting olive trees and starving jews? Were we using chemical weapons on jews? Were we arresting them everyday? Did we starve them and put them in open air prisons? Did we have checkpoints of degradation every few blocks?

I rest my case breh
 

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Were we killing innocents? Were we depriving jews? Were we bulldozing homes? Were we uprooting olive trees and starving jews? Were we using chemical weapons on jews? Were we arresting them everyday? Did we starve them and put them in open air prisons? Did we have checkpoints of degradation every few blocks?

I rest my case breh
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Were we killing innocents? Were we depriving jews? Were we bulldozing homes? Were we uprooting olive trees and starving jews? Were we using chemical weapons on jews? Were we arresting them everyday? Did we starve them and put them in open air prisons? Did we have checkpoints of degradation every few blocks?

I rest my case breh


It appears that you didn't read what I wrote or you think I'm some zionist defender.

What is happening now is much worse so there is no need to spread absurd historical revisionism to bolster your claim of oppression.
 

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It appears that you didn't read what I wrote or you think I'm some zionist defender.

What is happening now is much worse so there is no need to spread absurd historical revisionism to bolster your claim of oppression.

Absurd historical revisionism? Lol

I made a point that when we were in control, there was peace and harmony. You disagreed. However, you havent provided any proof to the contrary. And now you're using false superiority to thwart my claim. Now if you have something of value to contribute or rebute my comment, I will entertain you. If not then stfu.
 
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