I don't care why jews weren't killed off or whatever rationale you want me to dig up from 1000 years ago.
We're talking about today.
The Israeli Perspective: The Middle East Problem
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I don't care why jews weren't killed off or whatever rationale you want me to dig up from 1000 years ago.
We're talking about today.
Poppa_Dock
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in islam a non Muslim is a "Dhimmi" and pays a tax called "Jizya". The actual somewhat humain idea is that a christian/jewish/zoroastiran community could pay a tax to an emir for protection, and they would also be allowed opportunity to worship their own ways. There is times even recently where a muslim army defended or fought with a the Dhimmi christians against such and such hoard of barbarians. In theory it's pretty sweet, you would have got the protection from a big army, been allowed to follow your faith and live normal. Through time this got harder and harder as conspiracy, mistrust etc. would spread in certain areas.
The things with jews and money is christians were "forbidden" from dealing with money collecting/taxing etc. so many old european kings would hire jewish merchants and others to take care of the money business. It's the same with the hollywood/brooadway/casino thing, in america many of the peopel who had the balls to run a vaudville theatre or a whore house were secular jews and other secular people, once the masses accept that as valid entertainment, the same peopel still own it, well when europeans finally decided to ditch silly rules and not be so religious and stupid, the same people still owned what they rightfully owned. So many jews still had lots of money, connections, business acumen etc. etc. The reason why it always seems like jews "have an excuse" or are trying to weasel their way out of responsibility is because they usually had no responsibility for anything and were legit innocent and could explain why your accusations were false.
You are saying that the arabian goal is to exterminate jews . . . with no evidence, whereas plenty to the contrary.
tell me why are Israel targetting civilians again today?
your a clown, now fukk off
I NEVER said this.
However, to say Israel doesn't face existential threats? Laughable.
I see you looking like this
fukking clown. it took you how many replies to say that?
ok so, muslim countries did allow jews to safely live in the countries they ruled, and the arabian goal is not to exterminate jews. youve learnt something today!
Its telling why you are struggling to answer any of the other points.
still... protection isn't extortion. looks like christians were laying it too. fast forward to today, outsiders just pay more thats the way it is.. the way your spinning it its as if jews were getting extorted when it probably wasn't the case. infact it's the zionists extorting america with this bull shyt war on terror..in islam a non Muslim is a "Dhimmi" and pays a tax called "Jizya". The actual somewhat humain idea is that a christian/jewish/zoroastiran community could pay a tax to an emir for protection, and they would also be allowed opportunity to worship their own ways. There is times even recently where a muslim army defended or fought with a the Dhimmi christians against such and such hoard of barbarians. In theory it's pretty sweet, you would have got the protection from a big army, been allowed to follow your faith and live normal. Through time this got harder and harder as conspiracy, mistrust etc. would spread in certain areas.
The things with jews and money is christians were "forbidden" from dealing with money collecting/taxing etc. so many old european kings would hire jewish merchants and others to take care of the money business. It's the same with the hollywood/brooadway/casino thing, in america many of the peopel who had the balls to run a vaudville theatre or a whore house were secular jews and other secular people, once the masses accept that as valid entertainment, the same peopel still own it, well when europeans finally decided to ditch silly rules and not be so religious and stupid, the same people still owned what they rightfully owned. So many jews still had lots of money, connections, business acumen etc. etc. The reason why it always seems like jews "have an excuse" or are trying to weasel their way out of responsibility is because they usually had no responsibility for anything and were legit innocent and could explain why your accusations were false.
Techniec
Drugs and Kalashnikovs
1. Jews weren't safely allowed to live. They were always outlawed, they kinda lived on the fringes. Minorities rights is largely a product of the enlightenment.I see you looking like this
fukking clown. it took you how many replies to say that?
ok so, muslim countries did allow jews to safely live in the countries they ruled, and the arabian goal is not to exterminate jews. youve learnt something today!
Its telling why you are struggling to answer any of the other points.
2. the arabian goal? Maybe not. Segments of ARABS? Definitely.
The dudes trying to establish a world caliphate maybe?whose an existential threat to israel?
the mighty egyptian army?
Techniec
Drugs and Kalashnikovs
The dudes trying to establish a world caliphate maybe?
those dusty ass isis losers would get wiped out in 48 hours by the israeli air force
Poppa_Dock
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Well in general it is extortion. I would never personally pay tax to a muslim because i wasn't a muslim. In lots of places it was put in place as a way to keep them as a second class citizen nomatter how you spin it. For example, if im a Chrstian years ago, living in a Sharia Tribal quasi state, and im wealthy so im getting hit up for a lot of money for taxes, and they are humans so there is definitely some liberties being taken. Maybe you get hit up twice in a week for "taxes", maybe the state is hurting for money and they come to you to foot the bill. Maybe your business is better than a Muslim business and you are sabotaged because you are christian. Keep in mind there is probably free reign on the plundering of your daughters and shyt too
. I do'nt want to make it out like it was always bad but come on it's extortion in general and the actual humane thing is to just make christians, whoever equal to muslims. Muslims in here could shed more light on what it was like to be a Dhimmi in an old sharia state, and im sure most of them would admit there wasn't to many bones being thrown around even for the muslims.And it's way different than the current situation because Israel is a european style democracy, you can't use examples from the year 1200 and say well ya it's written in a book here that muslims treated jews fairly
therefore the situation in israel is automatically against the jews
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both situations are way different.The only comparison i can see from ancient times and right now is both sides still love that sweet sweet killing and war
ill
Superstar
The only reason Israel hasn't been wiped off the map is because the Arab armies are highly inferior and keep getting their shyt pushed back. We're talking last hundred years here, not the entire history of civilization. All groups of religions beefed and were best friends at different times in history. That doesn't change the Arab desires to annihilate though, nice try.
DonFrancisco
Your Favorite Tio!
Ahhh the Captain Save a Hoe brigade is out in full force lately.
Palestine was never a nation. There is no such thing as Palestinian people. They are Jordanians. The land has been home to multiple races, religion, and nations over the years. The Jews were in that land at least three different time periods. Saying its "Palestinian" land is a joke especially when "Palestinians" aren't from there. For you nitwits, that means the Jews didn't take land from them since they didn't own it or belong there either. And don't try to give me that bullshyt that its all Euro-Jews that moved there. Theres been Jewish communities in Israel for thousands of years. Ya know, those "Real Jews" that even the crazy Hebrew Israelite idiots would claim are real Jews.
Israel has consistently given back land for peace. Its not a hard concept to understand unless you've been brainwashed by militants like Hamas, PLO, Hezbelloh, etc. fukk every one of those organizations and anyone that supports them. The best line in the clip was what would happen if each side laid down their arms. It tells you everything you need to know about who you're dealing with. The Israelis and the region would gain PEACE if Hamas etc laid down their arms. However, if the Israelis do it, it means their annihilation.
If you question why Israel takes the rash actions that it does today, look no further than the two original wars. How are you going to react when all your neighbors are gunning for you? For all of you blacks that think you've had it hard and have been oppressed since the day you were born, well guess what, Israel feels the same way, literally. Since the day of its founding, Israel has been under attack by the entire region. Everyone wants horrible shyt to happen including mass death while all Israel wants is peace.
Jews didn't have a hand in the Arab Spring. The shytty culture, oppression, and infestation of extremism caused the Arab Spring. Blame Jews for the bullshyt that Arabs created for themselves, breh.
By your flawed logic there is no such thing as Nigeria, Cameroon, Ghana, or any other colonized African and Arab lands. Jews had NO RIGHT, I mean NO right to just up and take land. Just like the white Americans had no right to take the land from Native Americans. You think that Native Americans today are happy that they were pushed out of their homeland. Not only pushed out but their culture completely changed and erased. If Israel give the land back in piece, so did the US, they were called Reservations. This no different than the Gaza Strip and Golan Heights. Guess what's going on in the Golan Heights, Jewish people are settling and pushing out the native residents. Yeah there isn't a Palestine and by that logic neither is their really a Nigeria, Cameroon, or any African country created during colonization. You can also make the same claim for the US.
Here is the reality, it would be inhumane to punish and push the Jews out of Israel and it would also be inhumane to push out the Palestinians. I think the end solution is probably the destruction of one of the groups. Just like the white man destroyed the different Native American tribes.
ill
Superstar
If you live in America please shut up. Do you see Americans moving back to Europe or Africa because we took Indian land? Didn't think so.
But hey keep campaigning for the elimination of one of these groups over the other. That'll work out real well.
The dudes trying to establish a world caliphate maybe?
John McCain & Lindsey Graham?