The Israeli Perspective: The Middle East Problem

[DonFrancisco]

If you live in America please shut up. Do you see Americans moving back to Europe or Africa because we took Indian land? Didn't think so.

Exactly my point. Israel will destroy the people living in occupied territory and systematically doing it as we speak. Thank you for proven my point!

 

[☑︎#VoteDemocrat]

those dusty ass isis losers would get wiped out in 48 hours by the israeli air force

The only reason the House of Saud is cool with Israel on a working level is cause neither of them like Iran getting a nuke.

If/when Iran stop being a threat, its back to hating on each other between the mecca lovers and the Knesset.

 

[☑︎#VoteDemocrat]

By your flawed logic there is no such thing as Nigeria, Cameroon, Ghana, or any other colonized African and Arab lands. Jews had NO RIGHT, I mean NO right to just up and take land. Just like the white Americans had no right to take the land from Native Americans. You think that Native Americans today are happy that they were pushed out of their homeland. Not only pushed out but their culture completely changed and erased. If Israel give the land back in piece, so did the US, they were called Reservations. This no different than the Gaza Strip and Golan Heights. Guess what's going on in the Golan Heights, Jewish people are settling and pushing out the native residents. Yeah there isn't a Palestine and by that logic neither is their really a Nigeria, Cameroon, or any African country created during colonization. You can also make the same claim for the US.

Here is the reality, it would be inhumane to punish and push the Jews out of Israel and it would also be inhumane to push out the Palestinians. I think the end solution is probably the destruction of one of the groups. Just like the white man destroyed the different Native American tribes.

Fam.

Its too late for all that.

There have been like 6-7 major wars and Israel won ALL of them.

Just give up and call for a two state solution.

I don't like playing this "claim to land" game.

You own what you can defend. Thats the way its always been.

 

[ill]

Exactly my point. Israel will destroy the people living in occupied territory and systematically doing it as we speak. Thank you for proven my point!

Thats your opinion that one group has to eliminate the other. I don't share your sentiment. Again, if you feel so strongly about the subject, you shouldn't live on indigenous Indian land. Pack your shyt up and go "home".

 

[DonFrancisco]

Fam.

Its too late for all that.

There have been like 6-7 major wars and Israel won ALL of them.

Just give up and call for a two state solution.

I don't like playing this "claim to land" game.

You own what you can defend. Thats the way its always been.

I think Israel isn't really wanting a 2-state solution. I think they are gunning for complete elimination of Palestinian people.

 

[DonFrancisco]

Thats your opinion that one group has to eliminate the other. I don't share your sentiment. Again, if you feel so strongly about the subject, you shouldn't live on indigenous Indian land. Pack your shyt up and go "home".

I never said I felt strongly about it, I'm just telling it as it is. You are just sugarcoating it and caping for Israel. Admit it, the checkpoints, crippling the occupied lands economy, settlers in the Golan Heights, and other Israeli actions are just about eliminating the other side from Israeli land. It has all the hallmarks of what the US did with the Native Americans.

 

[☑︎#VoteDemocrat]

I think Israel isn't really wanting a 2-state solution. I think they are gunning for complete elimination of Palestinian people.

What do YOU want?

 

[DonFrancisco]

What do YOU want?

2-state solution. Both sides should exist. I just don't see it happening.

 

[ill]

I never said I felt strongly about it, I'm just telling it as it is. You are just sugarcoating it and caping for Israel. Admit it, the checkpoints, crippling the occupied lands economy, settlers in the Golan Heights, and other Israeli actions are just about eliminating the other side from Israeli land. It has all the hallmarks of what the US did with the Native Americans.

Whatever makes you feel better. I'd ask you to think back on 9/11 and how amped up everybody was to go burn Osama down. To destroy Afganistan without thinking twice. How civil liberties took a nose dive. That was after ONE terrorist attack. Now imagine that shyt happens on a weekly basis with the threat that it could happen any day. Thats how you get the current militarized Israeli state. Security above all else. fukk, where do you think the US got all of their anti-terror techniques from?

 

[☑︎#VoteDemocrat]

Whatever makes you feel better. I'd ask you to think back on 9/11 and how amped up everybody was to go burn Osama down. To destroy Afganistan without thinking twice. How civil liberties took a nose dive. That was after ONE terrorist attack. Now imagine that shyt happens on a weekly basis with the threat that it could happen any day. Thats how you get the current militarized Israeli state. Security above all else. fukk, where do you think the US got all of their anti-terror techniques from?

@Ill might honestly be an Israeli, but he does have a point with this comment.

 

[ill]

@Ill might honestly be an Israeli, but he does have a point with this comment.

I've been out in the open about what I am, where I'm from and whom I support. I'm not Israeli. Only been there once for wedding.

 

[DonFrancisco]

Whatever makes you feel better. I'd ask you to think back on 9/11 and how amped up everybody was to go burn Osama down. To destroy Afganistan without thinking twice. How civil liberties took a nose dive. That was after ONE terrorist attack. Now imagine that shyt happens on a weekly basis with the threat that it could happen any day. Thats how you get the current militarized Israeli state. Security above all else. fukk, where do you think the US got all of their anti-terror techniques from?

Yet Israel is prospering and has very good standards of living......compare that too the Gaza Strip that is falling apart and has unemployment above 30%. What are you trying to prove? Look I want a 2-state solution, Israel has a right to exist but it doesn't have the right to choke the life and stability out of the Palestinian regions. Like I said, I just think Israel is aiming for the destruction and humiliation of Palestinians as a means to in part to get real security but mostly geopolitical gain and extra territory for growth.

Israel also isn't the only country dealing with terrorism. Mexican government is also fight a narco war yet it isn't above the scrutiny for its human rights abuses and causing civilian deaths.

 

[ill]

Yet Israel is prospering and has very good standards of living......compare that too the Gaza Strip that is falling apart and has unemployment above 30%. What are you trying to prove? Look I want a 2-state solution, Israel has a right to exist but it doesn't have the right to choke the life and stability out of the Palestinian regions. Like I said, I just think Israel is aiming for the destruction and humiliation of Palestinians as a means to in part to get real security but mostly geopolitical gain and extra territory for growth.

Israel also isn't the only country dealing with terrorism. Mexican government is also fight a narco war yet it isn't above the scrutiny for its human rights abuses and causing civilian deaths.

Mexico makes Israel looks like Disney world. Bad comparison. Israel doesn't want to eliminate the Palestinian people. They want to eliminate Hamas and those that sympathize with their cause of terror.

 

[ThaRealness]

This is the bs that drives me crazy. This deceit is possible by picking a date to began the narrative. How about explaining how Theodor Herzl formulated a plan and movement in the late 1800s to form a Jewish State on land already occupied by Palestinians? Or how Weizmann used his invention of explosives to bribe England into giving land away that was already inhabited? Or how they used mass murder and terrorism to run the people off of the land? Or how these terrorists become their govt leaders? Or for the religious argument, "GOD" prescribed the Jewish People to commit genocide on the Canaanites to get the land to begin with, killing men, women, children and even animals.

Since they stole the land and committed murder and terrorism to gain the land, their every action is illegal. The Arab nations did not arbitrarily decide to attack them. The Jewish People used the Holocaust as an excuse to displace and kill millions of INNOCENT people. When he leaves that out, he is an outright liar! It's like saying, "the Native America just refuse to let the English live here. I don't know why."

Its not this simple. Yall skip over the holocaust like its nothing more then a half assed excuse

The creation of a Jewish state had to happen, in order to end Jewish persecution. That is a fact. Easy to disregard if youre anti-semitic though

 

[thekingsmen]

Mexico makes Israel looks like Disney world. Bad comparison. Israel doesn't want to eliminate the Palestinian people. They want to eliminate Hamas and those that sympathize with their cause of terror.

You truly are Ill my friend, Israel will eliminate anyone in their way of what they want which is all of Gaza and the West Bank and beyond. Plus the U.S. media and Israel has considered every Palestinian a Hamas sympathizer, anyone who disagrees with Israel's policies as Hamas sympathizers.

So you were saying They want to eliminate Hamas and those that sympathize with their cause .