The Israeli Perspective: The Middle East Problem

[ill]

You truly are Ill my friend, Israel will eliminate anyone in their way of what they want which is all of Gaza and the West Bank and beyond. Plus the U.S. media and Israel has considered every Palestinian a Hamas sympathizer, anyone who disagrees with Israel's policies as Hamas sympathizers.

So you were saying They want to eliminate Hamas and those that sympathize with their cause .

The 30% Palestinian population of Israel would like a word with you. They think you are being highly disingenuous about Israeli extermination plans for them.

 

[Malta]

We gonna act like most of that list has either no dog in the outcome nor really cares?

half that list is ANTI-USA

You might as well take the abstains as a "No" as well

This post is just retarded on so many levels.

 

[☑︎#VoteDemocrat]

This post is just retarded on so many levels.

How?

Look at the countries on that list and remind me whose opinion you're taking seriously when you're done

 

[FAH1223]

Well in general it is extortion. I would never personally pay tax to a muslim because i wasn't a muslim. In lots of places it was put in place as a way to keep them as a second class citizen nomatter how you spin it. For example, if im a Chrstian years ago, living in a Sharia Tribal quasi state, and im wealthy so im getting hit up for a lot of money for taxes, and they are humans so there is definitely some liberties being taken. Maybe you get hit up twice in a week for "taxes", maybe the state is hurting for money and they come to you to foot the bill. Maybe your business is better than a Muslim business and you are sabotaged because you are christian. Keep in mind there is probably free reign on the plundering of your daughters and shyt too . I do'nt want to make it out like it was always bad but come on it's extortion in general and the actual humane thing is to just make christians, whoever equal to muslims. Muslims in here could shed more light on what it was like to be a Dhimmi in an old sharia state, and im sure most of them would admit there wasn't to many bones being thrown around even for the muslims.

And it's way different than the current situation because Israel is a european style democracy, you can't use examples from the year 1200 and say well ya it's written in a book here that muslims treated jews fairly therefore the situation in israel is automatically against the jews.
both situations are way different.

The only comparison i can see from ancient times and right now is both sides still love that sweet sweet killing and war

From what I've read, Muslims paid more in taxes than non-Muslims.

But different Caliphates were around and things changed from region to region, so what you're saying is valid... and there also were vibrant communities in places like Spain

 

[Kritic]

Well in general it is extortion. I would never personally pay tax to a muslim because i wasn't a muslim. In lots of places it was put in place as a way to keep them as a second class citizen nomatter how you spin it. For example, if im a Chrstian years ago, living in a Sharia Tribal quasi state, and im wealthy so im getting hit up for a lot of money for taxes, and they are humans so there is definitely some liberties being taken. Maybe you get hit up twice in a week for "taxes", maybe the state is hurting for money and they come to you to foot the bill. Maybe your business is better than a Muslim business and you are sabotaged because you are christian. Keep in mind there is probably free reign on the plundering of your daughters and shyt too . I do'nt want to make it out like it was always bad but come on it's extortion in general and the actual humane thing is to just make christians, whoever equal to muslims. Muslims in here could shed more light on what it was like to be a Dhimmi in an old sharia state, and im sure most of them would admit there wasn't to many bones being thrown around even for the muslims.

And it's way different than the current situation because Israel is a european style democracy, you can't use examples from the year 1200 and say well ya it's written in a book here that muslims treated jews fairly therefore the situation in israel is automatically against the jews.
both situations are way different.

The only comparison i can see from ancient times and right now is both sides still love that sweet sweet killing and war

jews and zionists are good at playing victims and they'll keep doing it cause there's always some dumb ass that'll believe it. not me.
they're the biggest trolls today.

they even got you niccas for them. unbelievable. you think that somehow for them advances you or makes you special to them.

eveyone went through shyt in history.

 

[ThaRealness]

jews and zionists are good at playing victims and they'll keep doing it cause there's always some dumb ass that'll believe it. not me.
they're the biggest trolls today.

they even got you niccas for them. unbelievable. you think that somehow for them advances you or makes you special to them.

eveyone went through shyt in history.

Cap your argument off with an extremely stupid statement, brehs

 

[Kritic]

Cap your argument off with an extremely stupid statement, brehs

typical of your way of thinking. there's nothing "smart" that doesn't prop you ppl up. you have infiltrated this board with your fukkery but it'll never work on me.

 

[ThaRealness]

typical of your way of thinking. there's nothing "smart" that doesn't prop you ppl up. you have infiltrated this board with your fukkery but it'll never work on me.

 

[merklman]

The only reason Israel hasn't been wiped off the map is because the Arab armies are highly inferior and keep getting their shyt pushed back. We're talking last hundred years here, not the entire history of civilization. All groups of religions beefed and were best friends at different times in history. That doesn't change the Arab desires to annihilate though, nice try.

You're fukking retarded right? There are still jewish populations living in arab countires to this day. Why arent they dead?

Give me evidence that the arabian goal is to kill all jews. Otherwise STFU

 

[merklman]

1. Jews weren't safely allowed to live. They were always outlawed, they kinda lived on the fringes. Minorities rights is largely a product of the enlightenment.

2. the arabian goal? Maybe not. Segments of ARABS? Definitely.

Jews were allowed to live safely.

Majority of Jews wants arabs wiped off the earth

 

[ill]

You're fukking retarded right? There are still jewish populations living in arab countires to this day. Why arent they dead?

Give me evidence that the arabian goal is to kill all jews. Otherwise STFU

Theres FIVE Jews left in Syria. Fewer than 100 Jews left in Iraq. These two countries were the most populous with Jews in history. They left because of persecution and murder. I'll give you Iran. Jews live perfectly fine there today.

Hitler got his idea for Jews to wear the Star of David on their clothing from Islam in Iraq.

The Caliph of Baghdad, al-Muqtadi [1075–1094], had given power to his vizier, Abu Shuja, [who] imposed that each male Jew should wear a yellow badge on his headgear.

Jews were allowed to live safely, you say?

The Damascus affair occurred in 1840, when a French monk and his servant disappeared in Damascus. Immediately following, a charge ofritual murder was brought against a large number of Jews in the city including children who were tortured. The consuls of England, France and Germany as well as Ottoman authorities, Christians, Muslims and Jews all played a great role in this affair.[14] Following the Damascus affair, Pogroms spread through the Middle East and North Africa. Pogroms occurred in: Aleppo (1850, 1875), Damascus (1840, 1848, 1890), Beirut (1862, 1874), Dayr al-Qamar (1847), Jerusalem (1847), Cairo (1844, 1890, 1901–02), Mansura (1877), Alexandria (1870, 1882, 1901–07), Port Said (1903, 1908), Damanhur (1871, 1873, 1877, 1891), Istanbul (1870, 1874), Buyukdere (1864), Kuzguncuk (1866), Eyub (1868), Edirne (1872), Izmir (1872, 1874).[15] There was a massacre of Jews in Baghdad in 1828.[12] There was another massacre in Barfurush in 1867.[12]

In 1839, in the eastern Persian city of Meshed, a mob burst into the Jewish Quarter, burned the synagogue, and destroyed the Torah scrolls. This is known as the Allahdad incident. It was only by forcible conversion that a massacre was averted.[16]

In 1941, following Rashid Ali's pro-Axis coup, riots known as the Farhud broke out in Baghdad in which approximately 180 Jews were killed and about 240 were wounded, 586 Jewish-owned businesses were looted and 99 Jewish houses were destroyed

Interesting..

And all of this was pre-1948 Israel so you can't even use that cop out. After 1948 the extra fuel that was added to the fire put y'all over the edge. If you really want me to Google you some terrorist statements(or state government statements) that call for the extermination of Jews or something similar, I can, but I think you already know about them.

 

[merklman]

Theres FIVE Jews left in Syria. Fewer than 100 Jews left in Iraq. These two countries were the most populous with Jews in history. They left because of persecution and murder. I'll give you Iran. Jews live perfectly fine there today.

Hitler got his idea for Jews to wear the Star of David on their clothing from Islam in Iraq.



Jews were allowed to live safely, you say?



Interesting..

And all of this was pre-1948 Israel so you can't even use that cop out. After 1948 the extra fuel that was added to the fire put y'all over the edge. If you really want me to Google you some terrorist statements(or state government statements) that call for the extermination of Jews or something similar, I can, but I think you already know about them.

all of this sounds so familiar? Oh yeah its being perpetrated by the Israelis on the Palastinians over the last century or so




So yeah, to sum up, Jews were allowed to live safely.

Majority of Jews wants arabs wiped off the earth, hell youve even said in this thread that you want Palestinian sympathizers to be exterminated.

 

[ill]

all of this sounds so familiar? Oh yeah its being perpetrated by the Israelis on the Palastinians over the last century or so




So yeah, to sum up, Jews were allowed to live safely.

Majority of Jews wants arabs wiped off the earth, hell youve even said in this thread that you want Palestinian sympathizers to be exterminated.

You have a mental deficiency if you actually took the time to read facts and came up with that conclusion. Try harder next time buddy.

Oh and I said Hamas sympathiers. Semantics matter.

 

[DonFrancisco]

Mexico makes Israel looks like Disney world. Bad comparison. Israel doesn't want to eliminate the Palestinian people. They want to eliminate Hamas and those that sympathize with their cause of terror.

Soo Mexico doesn't have the right to respond to threats made by Cartels to them and their interests BUT Israel is allowed to bomb beaches full of children? The UN and the media doesn't have the right to question both governments for their actions and try to hold them accountable?

Both conflicts are different but Mexico has to deal with urban warfare type violence when they try to clean up the streets of northern cities. They also face an enemy that is hidden in the civilian population and both use human shields. It isn't by accident that cartels use neighborhood gangs as their military wing, the Mexican army has to go into civilian areas and combat them.

Israel and the US aren't special to terrorism, a lot of nations have to deal with it as well. Their is a right way and a wrong way to deal with it.

 

[ill]

Soo Mexico doesn't have the right to respond to threats made by Cartels to them and their interests BUT Israel is allowed to bomb beaches full of children? The UN and the media doesn't have the right to question both governments for their actions and try to hold them accountable?

Both conflicts are different but Mexico has to deal with urban warfare type violence when they try to clean up the streets of northern cities. They also face an enemy that is hidden in the civilian population and both use human shields. It isn't by accident that cartels use neighborhood gangs as their military wing, the Mexican army has to go into civilian areas and combat them.

Israel and the US aren't special to terrorism, a lot of nations have to deal with it as well. Their is a right way and a wrong way to deal with it.

I may not be understanding you. Israel is Mexico and the Palestinians are the cartel? Is that your analogy?