I don't understand his Star comments. For most of ES, Joe was prematurely ending topics because he didn't listen to it, or didn't give a shyt. ES was about the music for the first couple of months, but soon became about fukkery. Plus, why wouldn't you want someone who's going to be objective to be on a music show. Star, has no connections with anyone in the business, Joe still did, and it showed.
I always preferred Joe on the podcast than on ES, because he's unfiltered. On ES, he would talk in circles against AK, another nikka who only talks in circles.