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Yeah without Ellie going through the battles she just seems like she has a lucky charm shoved up her ass. Like what's the point of all this if she can just magically escape situations to get to the next plot point?

At some point we're gonna need to see her in the mud sneaking behind dudes and shiving them up right lol.

The show's still amazingly shot and the acting is good. But we're getting towards final season Game of Thrones territory where the writing is letting things down.

And I'm a huge fan of TLOU2 game and had no issues with Abby. But the way thing are going they're not gonna be able to handle her journey either.
I just don't see any scenario were they could've had this TV version of Ellie be the ninja assassin she is in the game breh. They would've had to come up with a brand new storyline of her getting military trained in Jackson after her 16th birthday or some shyt :russ:

At the end of the day, they were stuck in a weird predicament of being more realistic about someone like Ellie going on a revenge mission in a warzone in Seattle and still sticking with the main plot points and encounters from the game. They could never find the right balance and they didn't have enough time/episodes to let shyt develop either.

There were a lot of options to make such a short season flow better while still following the same plot and main encounters/happenings of the games, but they took the riskiest one and paid for it, imo.
 

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I just don't see any scenario were they could've had this TV version of Ellie be the ninja assassin she is in the game breh. They would've had to come up with a brand new storyline of her getting military trained in Jackson after her 16th birthday or some shyt :russ:

At the end of the day, they were stuck in a weird predicament of being more realistic about someone like Ellie going on a revenge mission in a warzone in Seattle and still sticking with the main plot points and encounters from the game. They could never find the right balance and they didn't have enough time/episodes to let shyt develop either.

There were a lot of options to make such a short season flow better while still following the same plot and main encounters/happenings of the games, but they took the riskiest one and paid for it, imo.
They showed her training and even had Jesse say she was only 80% of what she could be or some shyt. I think Bella played it well during the part with Nora. It comes off more like a psychopathic than intense like the game but they had something.

And I'm not saying she should be taking down a whole set and sniping dudes with a coke bottle silencer lol. But taking down 2 or 3 people an ep is not crazy for this story.

But yeah they're going with a lot more a grounded approach here but I just don't feel like they've made it mesh with how the game gets you to these points.
 

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The TV show version of Ellie has to be one of the most annoying and unredeemable characters I've ever seen from a "main character." She's a burden on literally every character she interacts with. It's a stark difference from Game Ellie.

I'm just glad they're going to pivot to Abby next season because I don't know if I could continue watching this garbage ass version of Ellie.
 

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They showed her training and even had Jesse say she was only 80% of what she could be or some shyt. I think Bella played it well during the part with Nora. It comes off more like a psychopathic than intense like the game but they had something.

And I'm not saying she should be taking down a whole set and sniping dudes with a coke bottle silencer lol. But taking down 2 or 3 people an ep is not crazy for this story.

But yeah they're going with a lot more a grounded approach here but I just don't feel like they've made it mesh with how the game gets you to these points.
They showed her training to tell the audience Ellie was not as ready/tough as she thinks she is. Jesse tells her she would've been knocked the fukk out if the dude she was training went at her for real :pachaha:

For TV Ellie to mesh with video game Ellie, they probably would've had to drop the Dina love story. You can't have Ellie being a little psycho while at the same time having a teenage love affair with quirky dialogue and humor :manny: there's just not enough TV minutes for them to have her be funny + vulnerable + in love + mourning + dead set on revenge and come off well, imo.

In the game it works because you have way more time with her and there's way more leeway for a character to show that many dimensions than in a TV show setting. As a player, we are more forgiving of our MC than as a TV watcher, imo.
 

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I remember people trying to dunk on me for saying that Ellie gonna need to be recasted for season 2. She looked too young and 2 years wasn't going to change that.

How it feels to be looking at the same blank emotionless derp face for 7 episodes? Not great.
 

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I remember people trying to dunk on me for saying that Ellie gonna need to be recasted for season 2. She looked too young and 2 years wasn't going to change that.

How it feels to be looking at the same blank emotionless derp face for 7 episodes? Not great.
A recast might've worked better for some actions scenes but I don't think there's an actress out there that could pull off the impossible task of having like 4 different emotions every other scene while having to be funny, charming and menacing in a warzone filled with deviants and fukked up people in just 3 and a half episodes:heh: even Isabela Merced, who's by far this season's MVP wouldn't have been able to pull off "demonic Ellie" in a season structured and written like this one.
 

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They showed her training to tell the audience Ellie was not as ready/tough as she thinks she is. Jesse tells her she would've been knocked the fukk out if the dude she was training went at her for real :pachaha:

For TV Ellie to mesh with video game Ellie, they probably would've had to drop the Dina love story. You can't have Ellie being a little psycho while at the same time having a teenage love affair with quirky dialogue and humor :manny: there's just not enough TV minutes for them to have her be funny + vulnerable + in love + mourning + dead set on revenge and come off well, imo.

In the game it works because you have way more time with her and there's way more leeway for a character to show that many dimensions than in a TV show setting. As a player, we are more forgiving of our MC than as a TV watcher, imo.
They're really missing the Ellie training with Joel stuff from the game. Those training scenes with Jessie goes against things a bit. The way the plot moves just doesn't work with how she can get magically bailed out of every scenario right now. It'd make sense to know she was out there with Joel and Tommy being a little battle tested.
 

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I'm pissed. Jesse the GOAT got killed because of Ellie's b!tch ass :martin:

He should've let the WLF turn her into swiss cheese when she tried to be Captain Save-a-Scar earlier :martin:


Ellie in this season gets on my damn nerves. I really don't give a f*ck what happens to her :manny::camby:
 

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Watching ellie scold jessie in that building was like watching a child talk to their parent. Between that and her lisp coming through its just too much to take serious. It's not her fault but it's just bad casting and writing. She's annoying, especially after once again putting jessie at risk with trying to save this random despite the fact she just had a talk with jessie about him needing to get back home for his kid now. I at no point am even rooting for her. I wanted jessie to leave her ass there.
 

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I can give a pass to a lot, like iv said…they’re trying to put 15 hours worth of gameplay into 6-7 hours worth of TV

Sorry to be one of the annoying “game was better” people…
But with the last few eps outside of the flashback episode it has been very hard to ignore that The game is written infinitely better

And was the scene of Ellie getting taken by the scars between taking the boat to the ferris wheel just to pad the episode out by an extra 5 minutes or something? ?
 
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