The Liberal Millennial Revolution

[Gusto]

Millennials and post-millennials don't want to work for anything in their lives they just want it given to them and right away. Spoiled, lazy, and entitled what a mix! I'm sure they're all about socialism since they can't make it in the real world. Sorry, Billy, playing the guitar and being a bartender isn't go to pay the rent. Sally learned anthropology isn't a very useful degree after all but at least her trust fund is funded for another year or so.

Jesus breh, you sound like a Republican

 

[JahFocus CS]

Liberals made a lot of investments in controlling k-12 and college campuses.

It worked.

Then the newspeak PC shyt.

I don't want to live in socialism period. I am winner in life, and socialism always hurts the winners. It is what this system is designed to do.

If you "win" by exploiting others, well, yes.

Any previous class society, the exploiters would say the same thing as you too. That's your class interest.

Thing is, the bourgeoisie is an extremely small minority of exploiters. An organized and conscious working class easily wins its freedom.

 

[Camile.Bidan]

If you "win" by exploiting others, well, yes.

Any previous class society, the exploiters would say the same thing as you too. That's your class interest.

Thing is, the bourgeoisie is an extremely small minority of exploiters. An organized and conscious working class easily wins its freedom.

Exploit? Bourgeoisie? Who is being exploited? Are there slaves in this country?


The "working class" tried to earn its "freedom" in Russia, China, north korea, Vietnam and cambodia. It didn't really work out well for them. The same people that rose to success in pre-mao china, rose to success in mao's China and after mao's china.

And there was long term study released a few months ago that showed there was NO Correlation between school success, in predominantly black schools, and the amount of funding a schools received. That draws a serious doubt in my mind that re-distribution results in equal opportunity.

Progressivism's objective of equalization is a pipe dream. However, There are persuasive moral arguments for supporting the unsuccessful people.

 

[Gusto]

I don't want to live in socialism period. I am winner in life, and socialism always hurts the winners. It is what this system is designed to do.

If you're a winner, you probably should want things to move left too. I'm also a winner -- I have very practical, job-applicable degrees, and I make a very good wage compared to almost anyone. However, my wife and I have hundreds of thousands in student debt that we financed at half-decent rates and the Department of Education subsequently bought out and pinned at 7.9% during the bailouts. So, even though we're relative winners in terms of achievement, career progress, really any reasonable measure, we're still going to be hacking away at debt for the foreseeable future, many payments going to interest when they should have been going to principal. It doesn't really feel like winning tbh -- I'm woke enough to know when I'm getting screwed, and I'm getting screwed Prince Yahshua atom bomb style here. It's unconscionable the way our generation has been treated economically by both Democrats and Republicans, and millenials are right to want things more socialist. Now if they would only fukking vote...

 

[MrSinnister]

Millennials and post-millennials don't want to work for anything in their lives they just want it given to them and right away. Spoiled, lazy, and entitled what a mix! I'm sure they're all about socialism since they can't make it in the real world. Sorry, Billy, playing the guitar and being a bartender isn't go to pay the rent. Sally learned anthropology isn't a very useful degree after all but at least her trust fund is funded for another year or so.

How old are you? What would you want your parents to say about you at that age? Are you so in love with Hillary, that you'd piss on a whole generation of people like that? When I go to the mall, all I see are millenials working there and businessmen and women taking 2 hr lunch breaks.

I would say that the generation before the millenials is the laziest, because they had a lot of instant millionaires from that group, and they mostly wanted to smoke weed and theorize how to whore themselves out too.

A lot of millenials had parents who really hit an iceberg in 2008, and had to step up early, as well as live through a whole generation of being at war from the time you were like 8 onwards.

I just hate when older generations shyt on the younger ones, just to puff themselves up. Our parents said the EXACT same thing about us. It's not a good look.

 

[JahFocus CS]

Exploit? Bourgeoisie? Who is being exploited? Are there slaves in this country?


The "working class" tried to earn its "freedom" in Russia, China, north korea, Vietnam and cambodia. It didn't really work out well for them. The same people that rose to success in pre-mao china, rose to success in mao's China and after mao's china.

And there was long term study released a few months ago that showed there was NO Correlation between school success, in predominantly black schools, and the amount of funding a schools received. That draws a serious doubt in my mind that re-distribution results in equal opportunity.

Progressivism's objective of equalization is a pipe dream. However, There are persuasive moral arguments for supporting the unsuccessful people.

By definition, workers are exploited because they produce wealth in excess of what they receive back. They do not control the products of their labor.

"Exploitation" is not just or primarily a moralistic term. It is a scientific term with a precise economic meaning. I will touch on this soon in the Introduction to Socialism thread. This is a commonly misunderstood point.

Those countries had very small working classes. They were mostly feudal countries. And neither workers nor peasants really controlled those governments.

 

[Camile.Bidan]

By definition, workers are exploited because they produce wealth in excess of what they receive back. They do not control the products of their labor.

"Exploitation" is not just or primarily a moralistic term. It is a scientific term with a precise economic meaning. I will touch on this soon in the Introduction to Socialism thread. This is a commonly misunderstood point.

Those countries had very small working classes. They were mostly feudal countries. And neither workers nor peasants really controlled those governments.

A work puts a wigdet into another widget. his contribution is minimal, and he is replaceable by robots and other automated processes.

The value he adds, in a free market, is defined by the marginal utility of his contribution. The wage he receives is the intersection between the demand curve and the marginal utility of his labor. This is true even in a monopsony.

Nobody is forcing anyone to work against their own volition. If you have a clear example of that besides pimps&hoes and slaves, then please let me know.

Don't waste your typing the same liberal BS I have read on this for the last 16 years (1%, corporations, whatever) because I am not going to read it

 

[Camile.Bidan]

If you're a winner, you probably should want things to move left too. I'm also a winner -- I have very practical, job-applicable degrees, and I make a very good wage compared to almost anyone. However, my wife and I have hundreds of thousands in student debt that we financed at half-decent rates and the Department of Education subsequently bought out and pinned at 7.9% during the bailouts. So, even though we're relative winners in terms of achievement, career progress, really any reasonable measure, we're still going to be hacking away at debt for the foreseeable future, many payments going to interest when they should have been going to principal. It doesn't really feel like winning tbh -- I'm woke enough to know when I'm getting screwed, and I'm getting screwed Prince Yahshua atom bomb style here. It's unconscionable the way our generation has been treated economically by both Democrats and Republicans, and millenials are right to want things more socialist. Now if they would only fukking vote...

I don't have any student debt because I worked full-time during college. I don't have any credit card debt because I save adquately and I don't spend frivolously on bullshyt.

Socialism will result in more taxes, and less jobs. None of which help me.

 

[y que]

liberals are dead

 

[SithLawd]

So become a Ben Carson type of STEM that has no humanity in them.

Carson may be off his rocker a bit politically but the man was a pediatric neurosurgeon who saved thousands of children.

He's done more for humanity than all of those politicians he's running against combined.

 

[NoMayo15]

I don't have any student debt because I worked full-time during college. I don't have any credit card debt because I save adquately and I don't spend frivolously on bullshyt.

Socialism will result in more taxes, and less jobs. None of which help me.

Yeah but it's not just about you. Gay marriage has absolutely nothing to do with me, yet I'll still speak out in favor of equal marriage rights for homosexuals.

 

[acri1]

They clearly want what Sanders is advocating, but they're unmotivated to vote as every generation as young people have been. It's really strange to be honest. I think Oregon's voting method needs to be made national and that will change.

I think a lot of it is just cynicism about voting/politics in general.

For most people under 30, Congress has been gridlocked/obstructionist for most/all of their adult lives so they doubt that things will change regardless of whether they vote or not. So it's just hard to muster up the motivation to go out and vote, especially for younger/busier people that are working/going to school anyway.


I'd consider myself fairly politically informed and I still couldn't bring myself to vote in midterms two years ago because it just seemed like a wash.