The Lil Yachty Interview on Everyday Struggle PROVES why the culture aint been NOTHIN but DOWNHILL..

[African Peasant]

the problem is simple...most of these cats don't have any talent I mean Hip Hop has ALWAYS been frowned upon as being limited musically but if you studied the culture you know that the pioneers studied the greats. Hell to be a great guitar player you HAVE to had listened to your pioneers if not only for the inspiration. The pioneers in Hip Hop wanted to better the culture as well as their talents. That's why sampling records became more and more innovative or keyboard producers found better rhythms to compete with their peers. Rhyme patterns and lyrics became more and more innovative. Nowadays all these cats want from Hip Hop is drugs, bytches and MAYBE some money cause with them 360 deals they selling their souls to the machine the machine puts on the least talented and easy to control cats they can find. None of these new dudes will have careers based over a few years. They living in the NOW...the pioneers in Hip Hop wanted a LEGACY. Unfortunately the Hip Hop that we all grew to love is dead and I don't see it ever coming back

The elders grew up on black music, the real one.

These new cats don't have any cultural/musical knowledge. They are a parody of the people they grew up listening.

Black music (soul, jazz, funk, etc) were the roots of Hip-Hop. Now, those roots have been cut off. You can feel it culturally and musically. Rap is all over the place. Dead.

 

[Drip Bayless]

This needs to be the official thread where posters blow off steam about rap. That way they're not spamming the boards with the same posts and threads

This whole thread is " I blame _______"

" Well I blame ______"


:RussellMartBrook:

This is thread spamming but the mods don't do shyt because they old heads too

 

[African Peasant]

Y'all blaming non street rappers for ruining Hip Hop but not the trash gangsta rappers?

They are different manifestations of the same phenomenon.

 

[shopthatwrecks]

nikkas in here actin like their entire generation when it came to shyt they didnt understand..

old nikkas bein a critic to a young nikka...

yaht3000 eat breh..

 

[GoldenGlove]

I think that's downplaying Cudi overall. Cudi can't rap, Cudi can't sing but Cudi made people FEEL and ultimately that's all that reality matters.

I'm not against Cudi bringing emotion to the game and subsequently Yacthy bringing fun because honestly the game needs Yacthy as much was it needs Rakim

It's been like 2 straight decades of too many nikkas acting way to hard taking themselves way too seriously. At some point in that nikkas deemed that fun in hip hop=not hip hop

I don't even like Yachty like that(I like the music but hate his voice) but the nikka is necessary.

What people REALLY don't want to acknowledge is that a lot of heads think Yacthy makes them look bad to white folks, like their constant fake serious mugging and posturing is any less ridiculous

Cudi brought emotion to the game


You serious my nikka?

 

[Still Benefited]

And without the streets hiphop and every other part of american society will fall in terms of creatvity

But yall wanted to empower corny nikkas to show "we are not a monolith"....how has that worked out in nikkas favors.....these cornball brothas dont represent black people whatsoever....at least the real nikkas did,and do

These new nikkas symbolize sellout nikkas and they desire to assimilate and leave being black behind

Future one of the last of the real,Sauce Walka and Sancho the future,Migos the right now,Kendrick the game shifter and the balance,Boosie that pain rap,T.I the king for maturing

Support the real.

 

[NvrCMyNut]

It proved that 90s/2000s nikkas were shytty gatekeepers & the 2010s rappers were just a product of that. Yachty came across well, Budden came across as an irational hater.

 

[O.Red]

Cudi brought emotion to the game


You serious my nikka?

In the way we see it now absolutely.

These kids are 808s/So Far Gone kids bruh

You wouldn't have 808s without Cudi. You wouldn't have Drake without 808s/Cudi.

Cudi didn't invent emotion in hip hop no, but he brought the type of emotion that people in other genres felt whereas in hip hop(and black culture in general) there's a lot of hiding and suppressing certain feelings

 

[Still Benefited]

I think that's downplaying Cudi overall. Cudi can't rap, Cudi can't sing but Cudi made people FEEL and ultimately that's all that really matters.

I'm not against Cudi bringing emotion to the game and subsequently Yacthy bringing fun because honestly the game needs Yacthy as much was it needs Rakim

It's been like 2 straight decades of too many nikkas acting way to hard taking themselves way too seriously. At some point in that nikkas deemed that fun in hip hop=not hip hop

I don't even like Yachty like that(I like the music but hate his voice) but the nikka is necessary.

What people REALLY don't want to acknowledge is that a lot of heads think Yacthy makes them look bad to white folks, like their constant fake serious mugging and posturing is any less ridiculous

The game absolutley does not need Yachty like it needs Rakim

And rap has always been about fun,guess it just depends on what you consider fun....only way you woudnt find it fun is if you take it seriously,or are viewing hiphop from a outsiders perspective

If anything its been nothing but fun for long time....we still want fun,but just more nikkas like Migos and absolutley NO YACHTYs

 

[O.Red]

The elders grew up on black music, the real one.

These new cats don't have any cultural/musical knowledge. They are a parody of the people they grew up listening.

Black music (soul, jazz, funk, etc) were the roots of Hip-Hop. Now, those roots have been cut off. You can feel it culturally and musically. Rap is all over the place. Dead.

This one sided blame needs to stop before anything becomes productive

The previous generations constantly blaming the youth is some WEAK shyt.

Acknowledge the problems you have yes, but take some accountability in where y'all fukked up too.

 

[O.Red]

The game absolutley does not need Yachty like it needs Rakim

And rap has always been about fun,guess it just depends on what you consider fun....only way you woudnt find it fun is if you take it seriously,or are viewing hiphop from a outsiders perspective

If anything its been nothing but fun for long time....we still want fun,but just more non wack nikkas like Migos and absolutley NO YACHTYs

You're being disingenuous or intellectually dishonest

There's more than one type of fun. The hip hop fun in the 80s compared to the fun in the 90s is different. Its not monolithic

But this is a waste, because Nelly was fun and nikkas shytted on him too. This will keep going

Migos are wack? Ok

 

[marcuz]

Lil B def did, but I just think Cudi had even a bigger impact. Lil B can rap when he feels like it. Kid Cudi can't, dude is only good for adlibs and saying O melodically... which a lot of these dudes are only trying to do now.

lil b kinda set the standard for youtube rappers just poppin out videos to soundcloud beats

 

[Newzz]

This one sided blame needs to stop before anything becomes productive

The previous generations constantly blaming the youth is some WEAK shyt.

Acknowledge the problems you have yes, but take some accountability in where y'all fukked up too.

My era of rap, the 2000s, is the era that let ringtone rappers and the south completely takeover...............but now they wanna complain THIS era like we didn't allow Ying-Yang Twins, Lil Jon, Nelly, Shop Boyz, Travis Porter, Bonecrusher, J Kwon, Chingy, etc to exist

 

[DatNkkaCutty]

This needs to be the official thread where posters blow off steam about rap. That way they're not spamming the boards with the same posts and threads

Nggas just cant take hearin the truth. If your shyt is garbage...its garbage . The production is A1 tho so how can nggas be hatin. The music is dumbed down nd packaged by cacs. Do I see goofy lookin nggas like Yachty walkin the block wit choker chains nd pink box braids or a casually dressed ngga like a Dave East? The answer would be the latter. I can only relate to real shyt. Nggas out here wit Prince boots nd rainbow fronts...nd u goofys supportin that fantasy shyt.

and these new mumble rappers make better sounding music than you earbud listening eastcoasters

Ur either a clown..c00n...or cac makin that statement.

It proved that 90s/2000s nikkas were shytty gatekeepers & the 2010s rappers were just a product of that. Yachty came across well, Budden came across as an irational hater.

First part u right but... Im confused on why some u nggas that support these emo goofy mumble rappers would have a problem wit Joe bein emo or irrational? Aint that what u nggas like

 

[Still Benefited]

You're being disingenuous or intellectually dishonest

There's more than one type of fun. The hip hop fun in the 80s compared to the fun in the 90s is different. Its not monolithic

But this is a waste, because Nelly was fun and nikkas shytted on him too. This will keep going

Migos are wack? Ok

No i was saying Migos wasnt wack,and we need more of them and less Yachty,i love migos

And you dont think your being dishonest by acting like Yachty doesnt cover the same themes of fun,that rappers of today cover as "hiphop fun" u say we dont need...are you giving him more credit because his shyt sounds like a nursery rhymes?

"I know you want this for life
fukk you so good you be calling out to Christ
Bottles of the Tech got it laid on ice
We spent four seasons at the Four Seasons twice
You be calling all your homegirls like "I'm his wife"
Hell nah, you trippin', reevaluate your life
I can't love no bytch, every single hoe is trife
I sip dirty Sprite just to get me through the night
But I need you there
Promise that I need you there
Ain't no other bytch gon' fukk me like you do I swear
Put that on my gang I swear."


All bytches is trife,sippin dirty sprite to get thru the night?put that on my gang?