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Crayola Coyote

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Well my point was tongue in cheek. If you have the physical attributes women are looking for then mouthpiece is less important

but I’m saying if you look the part and act like a simp or goofy she gonna reevaluate her perception of you. It’s like Kevin Samuels acting like Kevin hart. His appearance and attitude doesn’t add up
 

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The more sensible alternative would be something akin to a Big Brother program where young boys can learn to be men from men they're spending time with. The idea that the solution should be online is exactly how we've gotten into this hole. Brothers are learning to be { x } from men who might very well be pretending to be that.

I'd go as far as arguing that learning to be a more attractive person is one of those things you have to be hands on about in an offline context. You have to put yourself in environments where you can have conversations with the opposite sex without ulterior motives. A "mouthpiece" shouldn't even be something we associate with game but rather a person's ability to speak with a confidence and fluency in any context. If a man wants to get better at talking to women, there's no shortcut, he has to talk to women.

A lot of these dinner dates that leave men feeling like they've been used for food are probably dates that failed because brothers are linking with women, trying to recite shyt they learned from some e-grifter and not realizing that their social awkwardness might as well have be a face tattoo.
The dinner date issue is a good example of something where another older male needs to educate younger dudes about reading whether or not she's attracted to you or just using you for attention. And schooling a breh on not being in a situation that clearly won't lead to the sex that he wants. Instead you have people telling the dude that he shouldn't even expect what he wants out of the situation and that he should just keep going on dates and get nothing out of said dates. Then people shame him for wanting what he wants too. Who are the sensible males that are going to offer this advice outside of the "redpill manosphere"?
 

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What i find funny is guys that talk down on the manosphere are always the guys the pretend they get women online.
The difference it self accountability and not being entitled. Regular nikkas not blaming someone else for a chick not feeling them or whatever. It is what it is, you keep it moving. That Manosphere shyt is like that “beat it chick” meme in podcast form… it’s just that the dudes aren’t always successful and the chick they wanted don’t always fall on hard times.
 

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they are just women. If they don’t like you they are gonna be dikkheads to you. If they like you they will make it easier for you to deal with them.
Sounds like the problem is that you’re bitter towards the hoes because they don’t treat you like a “prize”

If they don’t fuxk with you then keep it moving. It’s not that serious
 

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The dinner date issue is a good example of something where another older male needs to educate younger dudes about reading whether or not she's attracted to you or just using you for attention. And schooling a breh on not being in a situation that clearly won't lead to the sex that he wants. Instead you have people telling the dude that he shouldn't even expect what he wants out of the situation and that he should just keep going on dates and get nothing out of said dates. Then people shame him for wanting what he wants too. Who are the sensible males that are going to offer this advice outside of the "redpill manosphere"?

If the only men these brothers can find to learn from are found online, then it speaks to a larger problem with the quality of men produced by the communities those brothers belong to. If men want to learn how to conduct themselves with women, they need to be in spaces where the desired behavior is being modeled. Watching youtube videos of anyone doesn't even begin to cut it but there are no shortage of brothers who soak up what these youtubers are telling them and then attempt to apply it in the real world without having any of the nuance to deploy it properly.
 
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