The media is making people hate Stephen Curry lmao

[Gil Scott-Heroin]

@360Waves be honest if you weren't a LeBron stan you wouldn't be saying half the nonsense you do about Curry.

 

[360Waves]

GTFOH - it was still a loss.

They know they'll get more hits putting up Curry scoring highlights - it's not an agenda trying to make people hate him - they just know what's best for business.



They post player highlights - why wouldn't they post highlights of arguably the most popular player in the league, no matter if he won or lost? If he's putting up highlight-worthy shots that go in, you don't think folk are going to want to watch it? Here you are arguing for a rookie getting highlights in a loss, yet saying that there's this scheme to create a public divide because they post highlights of arguably the most popular player in the league, in a loss; your argument is that Curry suffered a blowout loss and a rookie whose career has only just begun suffered a nail-biting loss.

GTFOH you corny ass nikka.

Again, you're the biggest Curry stan on this board so you'll cape for him in any way possible. I'm 100% confident you'd be singing a different tune if this was anyone else. Posting highlights of a player's big game in a blowout loss is down right corny, and even more corny is leaving the scoreboard or any information about the game out of the video completely so the uninformed would think that Curry was cooking the Pistons en route to a W.

I literally have you on record saying LeBron didn't deserve to be in consideration for FMVP because despite his gaudy stats at the end of the day they lost--but here you are caping for this shyt. You're a fukking detriment.

 

[Gil Scott-Heroin]

Your final argument collapses on itself because you're basing it on last season when I'm very clearly talking about the right now.

Right now - how doesn't he have a valid argument for being the best in the league - he's averaging 30 ppg on 50% and has been arguably the most consistent star player in the league? It was up until a few weeks ago when LeBron was underperforming -



All this talk about what LeBron has done in the league doesn't mean shyt if your argument is what's happened this season.

Your first argument sorely misses my point, because that isn't an indictment on the media as much as it is an indictment on the sheep who gobble it. As for your second argument I really don't have any qualms with people proclaiming Steph to be the best in the league right now. I thought KD was better than LeBron during his MVP year. But if you can't see the difference between giving someone their due as the best right now, and the type of praise that Curry has been receiving then this is all lost on you.

What the fukk are you even saying here?

You're arguably the biggest Steph stan on this board so you'll refuse to be swayed but literally any other player with as little credentials as he has so far in the game being force fed down our throats and constantly being compared to Michael Jordan would be maniacally laughed at. No questions asked.

Wrong. The only one that's being unreasonable here is you. The comparisons I've seen with Jordan have been through the offensive impact he has had this season, and they've been valid. Stars ALWAYS get forced down our throats - more now than ever with 24/7 rotation of coverage. This is less to do with Curry and more to do with the NBA product.

Please tell me, how I blindly defend Curry beyond reason?

Except,

He's not more popular than LeBron. In literally any metric of worth. Inb4 you use All Star Votes.
And financially speaking has not usurped him as the league's face either. The Warriors are on pace to have a historic season and guess who the biggest TV Ratings draw is for the NBA still? Oh yeah, the small market Cleveland Cavaliers...and it isn't even close.

Show me these "metrics of worth" that show LeBron being more popular than Curry. lol at you throwing at All Star votes as if they aren't a scale of popularity.

You're still failing to see the big picture here - Curry is one of the most popular players in the league (he has a case of arguably being the most popular) - nevertheless that's not the point. He's still viewed as a superstar in terms of popularity - there's only a few players in this league (Kobe and LeBron) who're just as popular as he is. Which is why he gets the coverage he does. You can't say it's unwarranted or invalid. He's just coming off a title win as the #1 option and is having one of the most dominant offensive seasons in the history of the game. All the comparisons to past greats goes with the territory.

I used LeBron as a point of reference because he's the most recent big name in the league before Curry. But you could substitute him for virtually anyone else and the argument holds up exactly the same. I personally have never seen a player be anointed and hailed as "the one" so quickly while having so little too show for it.

at this vague nonsense.

Besides being voted 4th best PG of all time between a small collective of media personnel (we shouldn't even use that since you've been pushing this nonsense well before that), what standard has he been unreasonably held to which doesn't show up on his resume?

 

[holidayinn21]

You're not serious are you?

Yes.

@Blackthoughts you're still a fakkit

 

[Gil Scott-Heroin]

Again, you're the biggest Curry stan on this board so you'll cape for him in any way possible

This is why you're a dumbass.

Klay Thompson and Draymond Green Y'all

This above is a thread saying that Thompson and Green aren't shyt without Curry - look at who's the main poster in there arguing against that notion and putting forth and argument for both Thompson and Green; that they can still be productive and have impact without Curry. Does that sound like somebody who'll cape for Curry in any way possible?

Posting highlights of a player's big game in a blowout loss is down right corny, and even more corny is leaving the scoreboard or any information about the game out of the video completely so the uninformed would think that Curry was cooking the Pistons en route to a W.

You claim that you subscribe to the NBA's YT page but are ignorant to the fact they leave out the scoreboard on other highlight packages -




It comes down to where they cut the footage from (to get different and better angles) not because they're putting forth an agenda. What the fukk is wrong with you breh?

I literally have you on record saying LeBron didn't deserve to be in consideration for FMVP because despite his gaudy stats at the end of the day they lost--but here you are caping for this shyt. You're a fukking detriment.

That's because if you're on a team that losses 2-4, you don't deserve to be the FMVP. It's as simple as that - especially at LeBron's efficiency. I had a similar argument with another dude that accused me of some bullshyt like this - I've been advocating and campaigning for LeBron many times across the years (even to the point where I was accused as a stan) - you wouldn't know this because you've only been on this board for less than a year.

 

[360Waves]

Right now - how doesn't he have a valid argument for being the best in the league - he's averaging 30 ppg on 50% and has been arguably the most consistent star player in the league? A few weeks ago -

All this talk about what LeBron has done in the league doesn't mean shyt if your argument is what's happened this season.

You might actually be retarded. I don't know if you're one of those pseudo-intellectuals who over-estimates their intelligence or what but the premise of my argument is that Stephen Curry has not done enough on a historic level to receive such historic praise. Call him the best shooter ever sure. Call him the best player right now sure. Do not call him Michael Jordan. He simply doesn't have enough on his resume. He is a 2x All-Star, 1 Time RSMVP, and 1 Time Champ in a diluted Playoff Field. I never once said anything about him not being the best player RIGHT NOW.

PS: That picture is outdated. LeBron's been on a shooting tear lately but I digress.

What the fukk are you even saying here?

You do this cute thing where when you're too stupid to interpret what someone is saying you talk to them in a condescending tone. The post was pretty clear--the media and the people who blindly follow the media are both to blame, but the people moreso for not being able to formulate their own opinions. The same media that created the "villain" identity for LeBron and had masses of blind sheep hating him now have masses of blind sheep slurping Curry and uploading vines for every little thing he does. If you can't understand that, well actually I won't even finish I already knew you're an idiot.

Wrong. The only one that's being unreasonable here is you. The comparisons I've seen with Jordan have been through the offensive impact he has had this season, and they've been valid. Stars ALWAYS get forced down our throats - more now than ever with 24/7 rotation of coverage. This is less to do with Curry and more to do with the NBA product.

So do we call every player with a standout offensive season Michael Jordan? You earn that comparison if you do things like that over a sustained period of time. That's not Steph, not yet anyways. Which leads me back to my original argument, he's been annointed far too quickly. Need I remind you that a few years ago Derrick Rose had next. And now he's a laughing stock.

Please tell me, how I blindly defend Curry beyond reason?

I don't need to tell you. Take a look at your post count.

Show me these "metrics of worth" that show LeBron being more popular than Curry. lol at you throwing at All Star votes as if they aren't a scale of popularity.
TV ratings. Cavs still lead the NBA in National TV ratings by a landslide. Even with GSW coming off a championship and having a historic season. TV ratings are, by the way, far and away the most important metric and indicator of popularity. It is Television interest that got the NBA their record TV deal which is allowing them to explode the cap.
Social Media Stats. LeBron still leads all NBA players in Twitter mentions on average. He also dwarfs every player in Social Media followers (17.2m IG followers to Steph's 7.3m, 27m Twitter followers to Steph's 3.9m .)
And well, most importantly, money talks. And LeBron is still far and away the leading endorsement getter and just locked down a life-time deal with Nike--effectively making him an on paper billionaire before he even retires.
Steph probably will lead LeBron in jersey sales when the quarterly info comes out, but that's because 1.) LeBron led all of last year and everyone bought his jersey when he rejoined Cleveland and 2.) Steph is hot RIGHT NOW. There were times where Rose outdid LeBron in Jersey Sales when he was hot. What I care about is consistency, and LeBron is never out of the Top 2, ever.


You're still failing to see the big picture here - Curry is one of the most popular players in the league (he has a case of arguably being the most popular) - nevertheless that's not the point. He's still viewed as a superstar in terms of popularity - there's only a few players in this league (Kobe and LeBron) who're just as popular as he is. Which is why he gets the coverage he does. You can't say it's unwarranted or invalid. He's just coming off a title win as the #1 option and is having one of the most dominant offensive seasons in the history of the game. All the comparisons to past greats goes with the territory.

at this vague nonsense.

Besides being voted 4th best PG of all time between a small collective of media personnel (we shouldn't even use that since you've been pushing this nonsense well before that), what standard has he been unreasonably held to which doesn't show up on his resume?

And finally, you continue to harp on me having a problem with him being called the best player right now when I've made it very clear that I'm accepting of that and more miffed with the historical comparisons when his resume is so young. Your reading comprehension is horrific.

Read the bold.

 

[Gil Scott-Heroin]

You might actually be retarded. I don't know if you're one of those pseudo-intellectuals who over-estimates their intelligence or what but the premise of my argument is that Stephen Curry has not done enough on a historic level to receive such historic praise. Call him the best shooter ever sure. Do not call him Michael Jordan. He simply doesn't have enough on his resume. He is a 2x All-Star, 1 Time RSMVP, and 1 Time Champ in a diluted Playoff Field. I never once said anything about him not being the best player RIGHT NOW.

Where do you see me calling him Michael Jordan or comparing what he's done in his career to Jordan's?

WHAT THE fukk IS WRONG WITH YOU? These strawman arguments are unbelievable.

PS: That picture is outdated. LeBron's been on a shooting tear lately but I digress..

Don't play dumb. You made it a point to talk about what's happening this season - up until a few weeks ago LeBron was one of the worst shooters outside the paint. Doesn't that serve purpose in this argument?

You do this cute thing where when you're too stupid to interpret what someone is saying you talk to them in a condescending tone. The post was pretty clear--the media and the people who blindly follow the media are both to blame, but the people moreso for not being able to formulate their own opinions. The same media that created the "villain" identity for LeBron and had masses of blind sheep hating him now have masses of blind sheep slurping Curry and uploading vines for every little thing he does. If you can't understand that, well actually I won't even finish I already knew you're an idiot..

The levels of stupidity here.

TV ratings. Cavs still lead the NBA in National TV ratings by a landslide. Even with GSW coming off a championship and having a historic season. TV ratings are, by the way, far and away the most important metric and indicator of popularity. It is Television interest that got the NBA their record TV deal which is allowing them to explode the cap.

Actually they're not - national TV ratings are not a projection of personalized popularity standing - because they're based on teams. Not to mention, those are national ratings not worldwide ratings and the fact that TV ratings don't take into account a large part of the NBA's majority demographic who watch streams - which is paramount when discussing viewership.

And finally, you continue to harp on me having a problem with him being called the best player right now when I've made it very clear that I'm accepting of that and more miffed with the historical comparisons when his resume is so young. Your reading comprehension is horrific.

Again I'll ask you, apart from that ESPN list from a small panel who voted him the 4th best PG of all time, what other historical comparisons based on his career have you "miffed"?

 

[Gil Scott-Heroin]

Nobody hates Steph Curry.

But fans acting like Curry is the best player ever are pathetic.

WHERE THE fukk DO YALL GET THESE STRAWMAN ARGUMENTS FROM?

Who the fukk said Curry is the best player ever?

 

[Gil Scott-Heroin]

These fakkits really cropped out the scoreboard?

They do that with a quite a few highlight packages. But let TheColi tell you - they just do it for Curry.

 

[Remote]

WHERE THE fukk DO YALL GET THESE STRAWMAN ARGUMENTS FROM?

Who the fukk said Curry is the best player ever?

"Acting"

You aint read the post like the other guy who quoted me.
Sounds like you new around these forums.

 

[Gil Scott-Heroin]

"Acting"

You aint read the post like the other guy who quoted me.
Sounds like you new around these forums.

Who's "acting" like Curry is the best player ever? Why do yall dudes make up shyt? Why can't yall just come out and say you hate Curry because you need a player to hate, and that it has little to do with anything else?

 

[Lakerman0834]

lol dudes acting like Steph media createrd hyped machine. Naw he came in as a short shooting guard not many people had these kinds of expectations. Want to speak on media created star lets talk about bron. They were hyping him up as GOAT and hes been amazing but the way they hyped him he shouldnt be 2-4 in the finals

 

[Remote]

Who's "acting" like Curry is the best player ever? Why do yall dudes make up shyt? Why can't yall just come out and say you hate Curry because you need a player to hate, and that it has little to do with anything else?

I'm quite fond of Steph Curry.

 

[Gil Scott-Heroin]

I'm quite fond of Steph Curry.

Which posters on this board "act" like Curry is the best player ever?

 

[360Waves]

Where do you see me calling him Michael Jordan or comparing what he's done in his career to Jordan's?

WHAT THE fukk IS WRONG WITH YOU? These strawman arguments are unbelievable.

Are you retarded? No seriously Gil, are you actually retarded? When I say "Don't call him Michael Jordan" I AM NOT LITERALLY REFERRING TO YOU. I'm referring to the MEDIA and the sheep who follow them...you know...THE VERY SUBJECT THIS THREAD IS ABOUT.

Don't play dumb. You made it a point to talk about what's happening this season - up until a few weeks ago LeBron was one of the worst shooters outside the paint. Doesn't that serve purpose in this argument?



You are still continuing to talk about the right now when literally anyone with an IQ higher than 65 can see that my argument is talking historically. Let me spell it out for you. Stephen Curry's resume does not have enough on it for him to have earned some of the historical praise and comparisons he has. It has NOTHING to do with whether or not he is the best player right now. I know that quite literally the only thing you know how to do in any argument is resort to posting advanced stats but LeBron's shooting numbers from a few weeks back have absolutely nothing to do with what I was talking about. One, because not once did I ever say LeBron is the best player right now but more importantly because Two, LeBron could be the downright worst player in the league right now but that wouldn't negate the fact that HISTORICALLY he has more on his resume to earn him legendary comparisons than Curry does. I guess Kobe's ass percentages this season prove he isn't arguably the 2nd best SG of all time? And you're talking about levels of stupidity.

The levels of stupidity here.

Actually they're not - national TV ratings are not a projection of personalized popularity standing - because they're based on teams. Not to mention, those are national ratings not worldwide ratings and the fact that TV ratings don't take into account a large part of the NBA's majority demographic who watch streams - which is paramount when discussing viewership.
Um, yes they are. When Jordan was the face of the league, the Bulls were the leading TV interest. To this day, no NBA Finals game has surpassed Jordan's last Finals ever, which did Super Bowl numbers. When Kobe and Shaq were running the League, the Lakers were the leading TV interest, and again when Kobe was MVP then did his 2peat. When LeBron was the face of the league with the Heat, Miami quickly became the leading National TV interest in the league. And now, despite your contention that Curry is the face of the league, LeBron's Cavs dominate NBA TV ratings. This then, would be the first time in League history that the "face of the league" isn't tied to the most watched team in the league, seems to be breaking a pretty strong pattern. Maybe we can apply a little Occam's razor here and come to the conclusion that Steph simply isn't the most popular player in the league.

Perhaps even more damning on Steph is the fact that LeBron manages to dominate the league in ratings while playing for traditionally small markets. This dude single handedly drives Cleveland's economy up an ungodly percentage just by showing up, and manages to make teams that people otherwise would not give a fukk about must see TV, with the Cavs and the Heat (yes, Miami is a small market.) He is also the ONLY non-Laker in NBA history to play the Spurs in the Finals and net impressive TV ratings, as everyone knows the Spurs are ratings kryptonite. Steph Curry btw, plays in the Bay Area, the 6th biggest TV market in the country.

Again I'll ask you, apart from that ESPN list from a small panel who voted him the 4th best PG of all time, what other historical comparisons based on his career have you "miffed"?
It's pretty clear your reading comprehension is sorry so rather than provide examples I'll ask you to go back through my posts because I've provided plenty already.

Peep the bold. You're a moron Gil. Case closed.