The National Heroin Crisis Thread

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Tru, but I feel I know how the arrests will be distributed. Feels like h will be the new 'crack' in terms of sentencing.
I will say that there seems to be more of a emphasis on treatment and rehab for heroin and pill poppers than there was for crackheads.
Wonder why that is...

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When we look at societal issues, we as a culture have a tendency to blame the people at the end of the pipeline. School sucks? Must be the students or teachers. Violent neighborhood? Its the hood culture. People are fat? They eat too much.

Meanwhile the people who moved away and fact that federal money may not translate to real educational resources is ignored. The fact that guns and drugs have to get into the violent neighborhood somehow is ignored. The transformation of food companies into chemical companies is ignored.

Now with this heroine crisis, we are seeing a direct cause effect relationship between the actions of big pharma, big insurence, and payed-to-play doctors and hospitals, affecting a larger societal issue. The eager willingness to prescribe opiates has created a demand for them, and the true colors of those presription pain killers are revealed: they are nothing more than a commercialized version of heroine. People will continue to develop heroine addictions. These addictions will be the sole treated symptom of a more deadly virus.
 

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Yes it is. Just come to my thread in JBO and youll see all about it. I am almost 90 days clean after 4 years of abuse ock

I think the point of emphasis that needs to be noted is that your pill addiction is no different than heroin addiction. No different. I personally feel like people make light of opiate painkiller addiction because they are pills. It's seems like our societies attitude is if you can't inject it or smoke it then it must not be that bad.
 

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I think the point of emphasis that needs to be noted is that your pill addiction is no different than heroin addiction. No different. I personally feel like people make light of opiate painkiller addiction because they are pills. It's seems like our societies attitude is if you can't inject it or smoke it then it must not be that bad.

Yea, basically i didint do this but i almost did, heroin is cheaper and more abundant than waiting for some fukking perscription. the fact that heroin has a stigma is what makes it less attractive but once you get past that, its the exact same fukking high just no tylenol. Lean, Pills are just perscription grade heroin, nikkas think its a game, its fukking not.

Almost all the young cats started with scrip pills and moved onto heroin.

I just answered the question that its possible to kick the pill addiction and opiate addiction in general HOWEVER, nikkas who slam that shyt, thats tough, none of the people who are slamming ever last, but its possible.
 

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Yea, basically i didint do this but i almost did, heroin is cheaper and more abundant than waiting for some fukking perscription. the fact that heroin has a stigma is what makes it less attractive but once you get past that, its the exact same fukking high just no tylenol. Lean, Pills are just perscription grade heroin, nikkas think its a game, its fukking not.

Almost all the young cats started with scrip pills and moved onto heroin.

I just answered the question that its possible to kick the pill addiction and opiate addiction in general HOWEVER, nikkas who slam that shyt, thats tough, none of the people who are slamming ever last, but its possible.

What I notice is heroin only has a stigma to people who are 30 and older. It's like we grew up in a time where we associated heroin with some dirty junkie sitting on a bucket with a needle sticking out his arm. The idea is disgusting to us. Kids now don't feel that way. Heroin now is something you can drink, take as a pill, snort or inject. Now it becomes easier to say to yourself "is it worth paying $20 for a pill when I could get a $8 bag? Should I take a pill that takes me 40 minutes to feel the effect, or inject it in my bloodstream and feel it instantly?". Big pharma and their cronies managed to make this shyt seem cool to do
 

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a lot of celebs are hooked on the shyt too, look at a lot of the big A list actors, they always got huge bags under their eyes or wear sunglasses all the time
 

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When we look at societal issues, we as a culture have a tendency to blame the people at the end of the pipeline. School sucks? Must be the students or teachers. Violent neighborhood? Its the hood culture. People are fat? They eat too much.

Meanwhile the people who moved away and fact that federal money may not translate to real educational resources is ignored. The fact that guns and drugs have to get into the violent neighborhood somehow is ignored. The transformation of food companies into chemical companies is ignored.


Now with this heroine crisis, we are seeing a direct cause effect relationship between the actions of big pharma, big insurence, and payed-to-play doctors and hospitals, affecting a larger societal issue. The eager willingness to prescribe opiates has created a demand for them, and the true colors of those presription pain killers are revealed: they are nothing more than a commercialized version of heroine. People will continue to develop heroine addictions. These addictions will be the sole treated symptom of a more deadly virus.

I was just talking with my boy about this yesterday. We know some people that know some people :sas2: but it's crazy how the system works. You have major illegal drug manufacturers in South America or wherever and that product switches hands many times and travels thousands of miles. So it makes it to EVERY city and small town in America and who ends up getting caught with it? :mjpls: Some brother who's broke and stuck in a bad neighborhood with a shytty school and that won't be able to afford a good lawyer.

A few years ago this dude was telling me how he ran with Tookie and them in the old days but he was the smart kid who they all looked out for. Forced dude to go to school instead of hang out in the streets. They let him ride along to a pickup of some sort one evening. They enter a railroad yard and wait along this track. So a train goes by and he said the last car detached itself right in front of them and they open the door of this thing and it's filled with a bunch of weapons, some of it stamped with US military insignias. Now I don't know if the dude was telling the truth or not (seemed like a upstanding guy, is now a professional) but it does illustrate a point. This stuff just happens to find it's way to the places where it does the most damage in areas that contain a high percentage of black people. All coincidences I'm sure.
 

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nope, my piece of shyt friend was doin 5 percs a day. before i cut off all contact with him, he was tellin me how he knows hes never gonna be the same

fukk im tho :pacspit: only weak fakkits exepriment with that shyt and get addicted
damn kid, 5 percs a day aint even shyt. i pray for your boy. i know people who FUNCTION and do 25 bags of the purest H at ONCE
 
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it's comin back here, too. i mean it never was gone, but we got some places in the city where addicts can get synthetic heroin for free, one just around the corner of my place, and the faces are getting younger again, very popular among russians, too. i was a kid during the first (or second?) wave here (born 85), had the damn needles in my sandbox and all - me and 2 of my boys found a syringe when we were about 5, played around with it, somehow we all touched the needle, ended up bleeding. thinking back how close to death or a life with hepat*ts or aids i was, damn.

the pimps are also still using it to keep their flock under control, or cocaine.
 
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