The North Doesn't Bow To A False King: Official Raptors vs. Cavs ECF Thread

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It's hard to say what they'd do without bron. It's not fair to look at the games they played this year because the team and their strategy revolves around bron being the ball dominant leader of the team.

The talent is definitely there for them to be competitive without bron. Just depends on the game plan and execution.
This is just an excuse. It's perfectly fair to look at how the team has played without Lebron. If they had played well people judgements based on that so I don even know why you're making excuses. They have coached making millions of dollars to change the strategy and game plan based on who's playing.
 

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It's hard to say what they'd do without bron. It's not fair to look at the games they played this year because the team and their strategy revolves around bron being the ball dominant leader of the team.

The talent is definitely there for them to be competitive without bron. Just depends on the game plan and execution.

I don't know if they win a series without him, but they could win more reg season games without him than they did this year. I think Kyrie's health cost them games in the reg season without 'Bron.
 

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This is just an excuse. It's perfectly fair to look at how the team has played without Lebron. If that had played well people judgements based on that so I don even know why you're making excuses. They have coached making millions of dollars to change the strategy and game plan based on who's playing.
It's not even arguable that a team plays better with a consistent game plan and considerable time together on the court.
 

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It's not even arguable that a team plays better with a consistent game plan and considerable time together on the court.
This isn't a case of the team just falling off a bit without Lebron. Nobody expects them to be just as good without Lebron as they are with him but the point is that they suck without Lebron. Your excuse doesn't fly.
 

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This isn't a case of the team just falling off a bit without Lebron. Nobody expects them to be just as good without Lebron as they are with him but the point is that they suck without Lebron. Your excuse doesn't fly.
You are taking a couple on purpose throw away games to make this determination.

These are games when they are resting stars and generally don't care about the outcome of the game.

They are not playoff games or even important regular season games.

It's asinine to take that small sample size and make broad determinations.
 

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You are taking a couple on purpose throw away games to make this determination.

These are games when they are resting stars and generally don't care about the outcome of the game.

They are not playoff games or even important regular season games.

It's asinine to take that small sample size and make broad determinations.
Look it's all opinion. Lebron is playing so how they would do without him in the playoffs is all speculation. You don't have to agree with me. If you haven't seen enough to form an opinion in your mind then that's you. I have seen enough to form an opinion and you haven't said shyt that would make me rethink it. Lebron is the only proven player on that team. He takes the pressure of all of them. Nobody on the team except old ass Richard Jefferson has been on a team that has done anything in the playoffs without Lebron.
 

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Damn I just saw the postgame with Kevin Love, LeBron and Kyrie.

You can tell Kevin Love doesn't really get along with these guys, that shyt after he said he had Chocolate Milk got very awkward :huhldup:
 

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Damn I just saw the postgame with Kevin Love, LeBron and Kyrie.

You can tell Kevin Love doesn't really get along with these guys, that shyt after he said he had Chocolate Milk got very awkward :huhldup:

I've seen alot of cavs post games and usually Kevin and the guys have good chemistry..just seems like he was irritated by the press
 
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