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[Harry B]

There is a reason for everything. One of the reasons they have poor viewership numbers is because they gave TV rights to a lot of the surrounding area to the old Giants owner during tough times to convince him to keep the Giants in San Francisco. After the Giants rebounded the A's wanted the rights back but there was a new SF owner and he said fukk you, they mine now.

The Raiders wanted to stay in Oakland but the Oakland owner did some deal with the city that not only blocked the Raiders from getting a new stadium but prevented them from upgrading the Coliseum as well. So the Raiders leaving squarely sits on the shoulders of the government and the As.

After years of seeing stars come up in your organization only to give them away when big market teams come calling, fans will become disillusioned with the team. Its one thing when its a minor league team, the tickets are 10 dollars with a free t-shirt or free food. Its another when its a professional team charging 100+ for tickets and any player you like can be given away for peanuts at any moment. Why would you support that shyt?

Yes and all the reasons make sense for them to dip, for me at least, it doesn't make sense that one of the best teams have the worst turnout.

Also there's tickets for 14 bucks, most tickets around 40
Facts is that a small team will always have problems with big teams having more money. One way for them to get more money is to have a billionaire who wants to spend their own money. Another more common way is to have fans.


It's like a middle class kid giving up on life cause he isn't a millionaire. All smaller markets have the same problems, but somehow only Oakland seem to not look at themselves in the mirror and think that the world is against them. Especially seeing how teams wanting to dip was in 3 different sports, with many different owners, over decades.


But like I said, no reason to be mad that they're moving seeing how nobody watched the games or went to them in any event right? Be happy for the players who get some home crowd and another city that now gets a team

 

[Shadow King]

Yes and all the reasons make sense for them to dip, for me at least, it doesn't make sense that one of the best teams have the worst turnout.

Also there's tickets for 14 bucks, most tickets around 40
Facts is that a small team will always have problems with big teams having more money. One way for them to get more money is to have a billionaire who wants to spend their own money. Another more common way is to have fans.


It's like a middle class kid giving up on life cause he isn't a millionaire. All smaller markets have the same problems, but somehow only Oakland seem to not look at themselves in the mirror and think that the world is against them. Especially seeing how teams wanting to dip was in 3 different sports, with many different owners, over decades.


But like I said, no reason to be mad that they're moving seeing how nobody watched the games or went to them in any event right? Be happy for the players who get some home crowd and another city that now gets a team

Oakland is in a massive market.

When you essentially turn yourself into a Triple A team for other franchises, fans have a right to stop watching.

 

[BlackAchilles]

I saw this as well. I'd say screw Vegas. Salt Lake City is on the verge of building a new baseball stadium. Sac is probably right behind them in terms of wanting a team.

I don't see how that would work, 90% of the appeal of an MLB game is cacs wanting to sit outdoors and guzzle beer

 

[Nabs]

 

[Mantis Toboggan M.D.]

Oakland is in a massive market.

When you essentially turn yourself into a Triple A team for other franchises, fans have a right to stop watching.

Think about this. I saw a star earlier that could be wrong, but it said nobody has been with the A’s longer than 5 years since fisher bought the team in 2005. Hard to get invested when the team will be blown up in 2-3 years tops.

 

[calh45]

So what are you saying? Keep it factual.

Only facts I can google is

1. That they have the worst TV ratings and physical attendance, while having one of the best records, for the past decades.
2. Seven different owners wanted to move teams in different leagues and sports from Oakland for various reasons.
3. It's hard to retain big players when you have a poor sports culture, cause you have no money. (chicken or egg)
4. If you only care about the name of the players, and not the performance of the team, you obviously aren't fans of the team. That does not sound like a good basis for wanting to have a billion dollar sports operation there. "If we can't have the same guys as LA or NY, we won't watch" type of thing?

All I hear is "the fans didn't fukk with everyone that has ever been because x, y, and z". Fans across the globe don't fukk with owners, still pull up. Now you can go on and not fukk with anything at all. No loss for the fans, apparently, and happiness for the players, league, owners, and the other cities

Your life must be wild if you think folks are supposed to unconditionally support bullshyt and thinking you can Google away to folks who was there telling you how it was. John Fisher had Lew Wolff doing his dirty work before Lew got too old to continue. I'll help with your Google-Fu. Go look up Lew Wolff history. Go look up how the team did Barry Zito and Mark Mulder. Go look at how they did Miggy. They had folks winning Cy Youngs and MVPs in the early 2000s and refused to play them. Everyone knew the owner was up to some bullshyt when they didn't resign Giambi.

You're in this thread defending an owner who's sending legit players down the triple-A right now.

As far as the other owners go, they bought in cheap and early, and were too poor to keep up with modern owners and tried to get the city to pay for it. That ain't on Oakland. Oakland being the city standing up to bullshyt don't make them the bad guy. Al Davis broke ass was suing anyone and everyone he could while he was alive. Google that. Go google Chris Cohan. He had TWO winning seasons in the 16 years he was an owner. He's the one who broke up the We Believe team just to be cheap. Do you realize this man traded Chris Webber for Tom Guggliota after Chris' rookie year because he had beef with Don Nelson? THEN fired Don Nelson a year later and traded Guggliota?

Who would support that bullshyt?

 

[Harry B]

Your life must be wild if you think folks are supposed to unconditionally support bullshyt and thinking you can Google away to folks who was there telling you how it was. John Fisher had Lew Wolff doing his dirty work before Lew got too old to continue. I'll help with your Google-Fu. Go look up Lew Wolff history. Go look up how the team did Barry Zito and Mark Mulder. Go look at how they did Miggy. They had folks winning Cy Youngs and MVPs in the early 2000s and refused to play them. Everyone knew the owner was up to some bullshyt when they didn't resign Giambi.

You're in this thread defending an owner who's sending legit players down the triple-A right now.

As far as the other owners go, they bought in cheap and early, and were too poor to keep up with modern owners and tried to get the city to pay for it. That ain't on Oakland. Oakland being the city standing up to bullshyt don't make them the bad guy. Al Davis broke ass was suing anyone and everyone he could while he was alive. Google that. Go google Chris Cohan. He had TWO winning seasons in the 16 years he was an owner. He's the one who broke up the We Believe team just to be cheap. Do you realize this man traded Chris Webber for Tom Guggliota after Chris' rookie year because he had beef with Don Nelson? THEN fired Don Nelson a year later and traded Guggliota?

Who would support that bullshyt?

1. I’m not defending anyone, except the players that will now play in front of fans and teams that will play against a team with fans.

2. Again, 8th best record. Last in TV and box.
You don’t need to support, but you also don’t have an nba, nfl or mlb team anymore. Now you can keep on not supporting anything. Simple mathematics.


I’m just stating facts here. I don’t know what you are arguing about.

 

[Mantis Toboggan M.D.]

Your life must be wild if you think folks are supposed to unconditionally support bullshyt and thinking you can Google away to folks who was there telling you how it was. John Fisher had Lew Wolff doing his dirty work before Lew got too old to continue. I'll help with your Google-Fu. Go look up Lew Wolff history. Go look up how the team did Barry Zito and Mark Mulder. Go look at how they did Miggy. They had folks winning Cy Youngs and MVPs in the early 2000s and refused to play them. Everyone knew the owner was up to some bullshyt when they didn't resign Giambi.

You're in this thread defending an owner who's sending legit players down the triple-A right now.

As far as the other owners go, they bought in cheap and early, and were too poor to keep up with modern owners and tried to get the city to pay for it. That ain't on Oakland. Oakland being the city standing up to bullshyt don't make them the bad guy. Al Davis broke ass was suing anyone and everyone he could while he was alive. Google that. Go google Chris Cohan. He had TWO winning seasons in the 16 years he was an owner. He's the one who broke up the We Believe team just to be cheap. Do you realize this man traded Chris Webber for Tom Guggliota after Chris' rookie year because he had beef with Don Nelson? THEN fired Don Nelson a year later and traded Guggliota?

Who would support that bullshyt?

The column bill simmons released detailing their history from 1975-2012 after the fans booed the owner off the floor the night Chris Mullin got his number retired right after they traded Montana Ellis for an injured Andrew Bogut . Traded Penny and 3 straight first round picks for Webber. Traded Robert Parish and the pick used on Kevin Mchale for Joe Barry Carrol and sleepy Floyd

 

[calh45]

1. I’m not defending anyone, except the players that will now play in front of fans and teams that will play against a team with fans.

2. Again, 8th best record. Last in TV and box.
You don’t need to support, but you also don’t have an nba, nfl or mlb team anymore. Now you can keep on not supporting anything. Simple mathematics.


I’m just stating facts here. I don’t know what you are arguing about.

You're not stating facts. You're presenting your opinion. By presenting this type of opinion you are indeed supporting shytty ownership. Googling attendance numbers as if that has any relevance is just goofy by you because you're ignoring the owner's actions in why the attendance is what it is. If you can't understand the difference between any of these concepts we can agree to disagree.

I'm not arguing anything. I was attempting to correct someone who was wrong, but I don't need to do that anymore if you don't get it.

 

[FaTaL]

These fuking idiots, Ruiz needs to play everyday with that roster of bums, guaranteed over 60 steals

 

[Apprentice]

damn I learned Oakland don’t fw Al Davis from this thread

 

[itsyoung!!]

And despite all this, the A's have made the postseason 11 times since 2000. Fan attendance has never been higher than 7th in the AL, despite Oakland Coliseum having a capacity of over 56k for baseball.

A's have had success on the field, but a lack of fan support and playing in the worst facility in sports in one of the worst cities in America and this is why we are here.

no way you are blaming this on the fans..

 

[DJ Paul's Arm]

Is being sent to the AAA from the A’s really a demotion tho?

 

[calh45]

The column bill simmons released detailing their history from 1975-2012 after the fans booed the owner off the floor the night Chris Mullin got his number retired right after they traded Montana Ellis for an injured Andrew Bogut . Traded Penny and 3 straight first round picks for Webber. Traded Robert Parish and the pick used on Kevin Mchale for Joe Barry Carrol and sleepy Floyd

I'll never forget how hyped I was when they drafted Vince Carter then was annoyed as fukk they traded him away for Antwan Jamison then Vince got rookie of the year.

The funniest thing for me is knowing that Lacob don't realize that the loyal side of the bay is the east bay. Steph was lightning in a bottle and seeing how that infrastructure is "managing" Draymond doesn't inspire confidence in future team building.

 

[FakeNews]

Think about this. I saw a star earlier that could be wrong, but it said nobody has been with the A’s longer than 5 years since fisher bought the team in 2005. Hard to get invested when the team will be blown up in 2-3 years tops.

Why is it so hard for people to understand if you keep selling off your best players people are going to stop being invested.

Imagine if the Warriors traded Steph curry for a rookie SGA. Then 5 years later traded SGA for a rookie Paolo Banchero. Then 5 years later traded Paolo once he got too expensive