The Official 2012 NBA Draft Talk Thread

[FreedS[ohh]lave]

Lou Williams needs the ball in his hands as well, and he's become a better 3 point shooter since he entered the league. A lot of the issues you have with Rivers were the case with Williams when he was younger.

The Spurs system is predicated on ball movement, but still has 2 guys that can get their own when the need arises. It's a lot harder to find a player with Rivers skillset than it is to find a guy that can just stand in a corner and wait to shoot the 3, or sometimes initiate offense. Getting him and working with him to become a better shooter would make your team more dynamic in the long run and would give you someone that you toss the ball to and say "Get us 2" when Adelman's system craps the bed in the 4th.

If he's really 6"4, he will be a big problem in the future.

Ay Wilt where do u want to see Davis end up?

 

[Malta]

Ay Wilt where do u want to see Davis end up?

Ideal situation would be with the Nets, even though apparently they're going to trade the pick even if they win the lottery.


Cavs, Nets, Blazers are the best places for him.

 

[Outlaw]

Ideal situation would be with the Nets, even though apparently they're going to trade the pick even if they win the lottery.


Cavs, Nets, Blazers are the best places for him.

Ironic, the Nets are a true example of an inept ran organization. They traded a lightly protected lottery pick for an unextended Gerald Wallace

 

[tremonthustler1]

Yet you think Lou Williams moves well without the ball???

Lou would have the ball in his hands a lot too. If it's not in Ricky's hands it would be in Lou's (I'm not advocating for them to sign Lou, but I'm bringing up an example-- they just gotta spend $12-$15 mil this summer. It's like Brewster's Millions with this team)

Lou Williams needs the ball in his hands as well, and he's become a better 3 point shooter since he entered the league. A lot of the issues you have with Rivers were the case with Williams when he was younger.

The Spurs system is predicated on ball movement, but still has 2 guys that can get their own when the need arises. It's a lot harder to find a player with Rivers skillset than it is to find a guy that can just stand in a corner and wait to shoot the 3, or sometimes initiate offense. Getting him and working with him to become a better shooter would make your team more dynamic in the long run and would give you someone that you toss the ball to and say "Get us 2" when Adelman's system craps the bed in the 4th.

If he's really 6"4, he will be a big problem in the future.

The Spurs were 4th in the league in assists per game. The T'wolves were 25th, and that was with Rubio was top 5 individually in that department. Ginobili can get his but he can also facilitate. Same with Leonard, Parker, Neal, etc. They could use a scorer, but shyt, Derrick Williams should be that second or third scorer. Otherwise, why the fukk is he here? So much of the scoring questions really comes down to him. I'm not against a developmental prospect which is what Rivers would be, but short term, they need a starter, and if they're gonna spend big money on one, then it defeats the purpose of drafting another SG prospect in Rivers when they have one in Malcolm Lee.

 

[FreedS[ohh]lave]

Ideal situation would be with the Nets, even though apparently they're going to trade the pick even if they win the lottery.


Cavs, Nets, Blazers are the best places for him.

I agree..id love to see one of the teams with two picks get him and Drummond just from the potential standpoint

 

[Kang Deezy]

If Austin Rivers is gonna slip that far, you might as well start the Austin to the Celtics possibility again...

On one hand, Danny Ainge is the kind of guy who would trade to get him on the team, but on the other hand, Danny is also the guy that you know wouldn't do it if he didn't think Austin would be the best player for the team.

It'll be tough, obviously just trading both picks to move up is the easy answer, but the team needs young badly and there's going to be a lot of good talent at that spot,

 

[tremonthustler1]

If Austin Rivers is gonna slip that far, you might as well start the Austin to the Celtics possibility again...

On one hand, Danny Ainge is the kind of guy who would trade to get him on the team, but on the other hand, Danny is also the guy that you know wouldn't do it if he didn't think Austin would be the best player for the team.

It'll be tough, obviously just trading both picks to move up is the easy answer, but the team needs young badly and there's going to be a lot of good talent at that spot,

Boston would have to trade up to do it, but gun to my head, Minny won't pass up Rivers if he's there at 18. I know they definitely like him.

That said, if they offered 21/22 for 18/58 or something like that, I'm down.

 

[tremonthustler1]

The annual Minny 2nd round workout list

Below is a breakdown of the prospects who will be participating in Thursday’s workouts.

Thursday — Session 1:

J’Covan Brown, G, Texas — 2012 Big 12’s leading scorer at 20.1 points per game

Drew Gordon, F, New Mexico — Averaged a double-double (13.7 points, 11.1 rebounds) during his senior season

Miles Plumlee, C, Duke — Shot 61.0 percent as a senior while contributing 6.6 points and 7.1 rebounds per game for the Blue Devils; averaged 2.9 offensive boards per game as a senior.

Tomas Satoransky, G, Sevilla (Spain) — A 6-foot-7 point guard who shot 42.9 percent from the floor in 2011-12 for Sevilla.

John Shurna, F, Northwestern — Northwestern’s all-time leading scorer; 2012 Big Ten scoring champion at 20.0 points per game in conference play

Wesley Witherspoon, F, Memphis — Scored 7.1 points and added 3.7 rebounds during his senior season with Memphis; shot 44.4 percent from the field and 36.5 percent from 3-point range

Thursday — Session 2:

Quincy Acy, F, Baylor — One of two players in Baylor history to rank in the top 10 in scoring, rebounding, blocked shots and field goal percentage

Jae Crowder, F, Marquette — 2012 Big East Player of the Year and AP All-America Second Team; averaged 17.5 points and 8.4 rebounds per game last year.

Scott Machado, G, Iona — Led the NCAA in assists (327, 9.9 assists per game) in 2012; first player since 1993 to dish out more than 300 assists in a single season

Ramone Moore, G, Temple — 2012 All-Atlantic 10 First Team selection; led team and third in A10 in scoring with 17.3 points per game as a senior, scoring 20-plus points 10 times

Kevin Murphy, G, Tennessee Tech — Scored 20.6 points per game and shot 41.6 percent from 3-point range as a senior along with 5.2 rebounds and 2.3 assists

Casper Ware, G, Long Beach State — Long Beach State’s all-time leader with 545 assists and 205 steals during his four-year career; scored 17.4 points per game as a senior

 

[Flight]

Quincy Miller could be a damn steal..projected top 7 for next year, still hasnt come close to reaching peak..I could see dude being a really good pro

It just depends on him recovering from his ACL injury..He was never a super athletic kid..But it was obvious to see that he wasn't close to 100 percent this year.

 

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Chad Ford ‏@chadfordinsider

J Lamb vitals: 6-4 in socks. 6-5.5 in shoes. 6-11 wing. 8-6 reach. 33 no step vert. 36 1 step vert

Meyers Leonard vitals: 6-11.5 no shoes. 7-1 in shoes. 7-2.5 wing. 8-11 reach. 31 no step vert. 33 1 step vert

Leonard isn't the measurable/athletic freak i thought he was.Don't think he'll be a workout warrior.

 

[Malta]

Lou would have the ball in his hands a lot too. If it's not in Ricky's hands it would be in Lou's (I'm not advocating for them to sign Lou, but I'm bringing up an example-- they just gotta spend $12-$15 mil this summer. It's like Brewster's Millions with this team)



The Spurs were 4th in the league in assists per game. The T'wolves were 25th, and that was with Rubio was top 5 individually in that department. Ginobili can get his but he can also facilitate. Same with Leonard, Parker, Neal, etc. They could use a scorer, but shyt, Derrick Williams should be that second or third scorer. Otherwise, why the fukk is he here? So much of the scoring questions really comes down to him. I'm not against a developmental prospect which is what Rivers would be, but short term, they need a starter, and if they're gonna spend big money on one, then it defeats the purpose of drafting another SG prospect in Rivers when they have one in Malcolm Lee.

Sure, they get assists, but when the offense breaks down Ginobili and Parker can create for themselves. The Wolves need a dynamic player at the 2 or 3, and I don't see Derrick ever being able to score for himself at a very high level even if he transitions to the 3. He'll be one of those guys that gets points quietly and you'll be like "damn, he had 24?" when the game is over, but he won't be a guy you can count on in close games once the D gets serious.

Lee will never be the player Rivers has a chance of being, an elite handle is what separates SGs at the NBA level. The things Rivers needs to work on are "easy" by comparison of what Lee needs to work on, a jumper is something anyone can develop, if you don't have one on one breakdown moves by senior year of HS then you never will.

I agree..id love to see one of the teams with two picks get him and Drummond just from the potential standpoint

The Hornets getting the 1st and 3rd pick, or even the 3rd and 4th would be sick, they could take Davis/Drummond or Drummond/Robinson

 

[Malta]

Leonard isn't the measurable/athletic freak i thought he was.Don't think he'll be a workout warrior.

Only an 8"11 standing reach and he's 7"1 in shoes, what the fukk

 

[Bruh Man 5th Flo]

Quincy Miller could be a damn steal..projected top 7 for next year, still hasnt come close to reaching peak..I could see dude being a really good pro

Yeah hopefully he doesnt get buried at the end of a bench and have all his confidence drained....he'll be a late 1st rd pick so he'll more than likely go to a good team.

 

[tremonthustler1]

Lamb's wingspan


Leonard's overhead blackthoughts he's all yours

Sure, they get assists, but when the offense breaks down Ginobili and Parker can create for themselves. The Wolves need a dynamic player at the 2 or 3, and I don't see Derrick ever being able to score for himself at a very high level even if he transitions to the 3. He'll be one of those guys that gets points quietly and you'll be like "damn, he had 24?" when the game is over, but he won't be a guy you can count on in close games once the D gets serious.

Which is another reason why he probably has to go. If the #2 pick of 2011 only turns out to be a 4th option at best backup PF, then me being adamant about him needing to be moved. Love quietly scores 27. Pek quietly gives 15-16 a night. How many quiet scorers can a team have? The one thing that works in their favor (and Derrick's) is that they're incredibly efficient with the ball

Lee will never be the player Rivers has a chance of being, an elite handle is what separates SGs at the NBA level. The things Rivers needs to work on are "easy" by comparison of what Lee needs to work on, a jumper is something anyone can develop, if you don't have one on one breakdown moves by senior year of HS then you never will.

Rivers can never be what Lee can be defensively. That's why if the Wolves strike out this summer, Lee's the guy that must start (worst case scenario is that they go out and sign Jamal Crawford or something). That's another hole that team has. Rubio can't be the entire Wolves' defense again. They're gonna be asking a lot out of their wing positions because they have to make up for what Love and Pek can't do on D and what Rubio can't do on offense, and on top of that, they have a short window to add the defensive pieces in the front court and a SG

 

[G.O.A.T Squad Spokesman]

Lamb's wingspan


Leonard's overhead blackthoughts he's all yours

I'll take any athletic 7 footer I can get.