The Official 2013 Orlando Magic Offseason Thread

Who should the Magic draft ???

  • Nerlens Noel

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  • Trey Burke

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  • Victor Oladipo

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  • Cody Zeller

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Marciano

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Just out of curiousity how in love is the front office with Vucci Mane?

Is he untouchable?

Would they swap with Cleveland for the rights to Noel and the #2 ?

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Good question. He's capable of putting up a double double, every night. He's not that strong on D though.
 

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I'll peep in once in a while, but as long as they're sucking for lottery picks, they won't get my energy... fukk em! :pacspit:



















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We tried that in recent years, with two past their prime players - Vince Carter & Jason Richardson.

The reason I'd rather us get McLemore than next year, hopefully to get Smart is the point you brought out. The triple threat of McLemore. Plus with Smart, he has the scoring ability & skillset to run the 1....plus he has the height & defense to have a good chance to keep up with the likes of Rondo, Wall, D. Williams, Westbrook, Paul, etc. Besides Paul, Burke is too small for them dudes

Burke checked in at the combine at 6'1 3/4 and 187 pounds. He's not that small.

Just out of curiousity how in love is the front office with Vucci Mane?

Is he untouchable?

Would they swap with Cleveland for the rights to Noel and the #2 ?

:ld:

I dont think he's untouchable at all .. but he is young and skilled. What is he? 22 years old? He's a double/double machine. Honestly, this might sound homerish .. but I'd rather have Vucci than Noel straight up. Noel's defense is light years ahead of Vucci .. but Vucci's offense is pretty damn good.
 

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Burke checked in at the combine at 6'1 3/4 and 187 pounds. He's not that small.



I dont think he's untouchable at all .. but he is young and skilled. What is he? 22 years old? He's a double/double machine. Honestly, this might sound homerish .. but I'd rather have Vucci than Noel straight up. Noel's defense is light years ahead of Vucci .. but Vucci's offense is pretty damn good.

Yeah, I just really see us getting McLemore though....possibly the best shooter in the draft & a KU alum like Vaughn.

But, either way, with McLemore or Burke, I think it would be a good look regardless
 

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From ESPN Insider:

Personnel needs: PG, SG, PF

Major need: The most glaring need for Orlando is to bring in a playmaker who doesn't just create offense for others but can also be a threat himself. The Magic need a player who will elevate the offensive production and efficiency for a team that ranked 27th in the league in points scored per 100 possessions (101.6) and 20th in effective field goal percentage (48.5). Another point of emphasis should be the ability to generate "easy" points, as the Magic were 29th in 3-point percentage, 29th in FTA rate and 27th in fast-break points per 100 possessions. Translation: Every point scored seemed to be a struggle. An athletic wing player who can shoot could help fill that void.

Quiet need: Orlando might still need a legitimate option at power forward, as the incumbents fit the profile of backups for a variety of reasons. The best options on the roster are 2012 first-round pick Andrew Nicholson, who needs to improve tremendously on the boards, and midseason acquisition Tobias Harris, who is more of a tweener.

Not a need: The running joke in the NBA is that Orlando got the best center in the Dwight Howard-Andrew Bynum trade in Nikola Vucevic. While no one should be rushing to Springfield with a Hall of Fame ballot for Vucevic, he has rebounded extremely well for Orlando, averaging a double-double, and quietly developed into a nice pick-and-roll option.

Depth chart

Jobs in jeopardy: The writing is on the wall for point guard Jameer Nelson, who has two years left at $8.6 million and $8 million, respectively, although just $2 million is guaranteed in the final season. He might be retained for veteran leadership purposes, but Orlando could recoup some value by moving him to a contender looking to shore up its backup point guard spot. Similarly, the end is almost certainly here for Hedo Turkoglu, who has $6 million guaranteed on the final year of his $12 million deal. Unless another team is looking to unload picks in exchange for cap relief, the Magic will release Turkoglu this summer.

Don't mess with it: There's not a whole lot to declare untouchable on the Magic roster. Vucevic is a nice option to monitor at center, and Harris and Moe Harkless have shown potential.

What free agency could solve

By waiving Turkoglu, Orlando would drop to about $47.8 million in payroll, but the cap hold of unrestricted free agent-to-be Beno Udrih is worth $11.1 million, swallowing up almost the entirety of the cap space created. Until they either sign Udrih to a new deal or renounce his Bird rights, Orlando will have limited resources to sign free agents.

Once they do clear up the Udrih situation, there will be several point guard options available on the market, such as restricted free agents Brandon Jennings, Jeff Teague and Darren Collison. But none of these names would transform Orlando into anything more than a slightly better team, so the most obvious play would be to use its cap space to help facilitate deals as a third party and recoup assets in return.

How they draft

Orlando's management team has just one draft under its belt (2012), where it selected a pair of bigs: Nicholson in the first round and Kyle O'Quinn in the second. Nicholson showed promise as an inside-outside scoring threat, with decent efficiency in the post and the ability to knock down perimeter shots in the pick-and-pop. O'Quinn was a dirt worker in limited minutes, rebounding at a high rate on both ends of the floor.

Three best fits

Trey Burke could be a building block for Orlando if Jameer Nelson is phased out.
If presumptive No. 1 overall pick Nerlens Noel is available, they should take him and worry about positions later. But assuming that Noel is off the board:

Trey Burke, PG, Michigan (Chad Ford Big Board Ranking: No. 4): I wrote about how Burke's skill set fits with Orlando's needs a month ago and praised his ability to penetrate and create scoring opportunities for his teammates. Despite his small size, he is adept at finishing through contact.

C.J. McCollum, Combo, Lehigh (No. 7): McCollum is more of a scoring guard, but that's not a bad thing for Orlando considering their scoring woes. At 6-foot-3 and 190 pounds, he has good size and strength. In his limited appearances last season, he improved his main weakness from prior seasons (perimeter shooting). It's also important to note that McCollum has four years of college experience, despite being just 21.

Dennis Schroeder, PG, Germany (No. 21): An outside-the-box option if Orlando decides to trade down, Schroeder is an athletic penetrate-and-kick point who plays with great aggression. He's young (19) and raw but has the physical tools to develop into something special.

It's a successful draft if ...

What they must accomplish: Add talent of any kind. The Magic have plenty of holes to fill, so they shouldn't get caught up in trying to fill specific positions, although point guard is the biggest need. The most important thing is to maximize the value of their picks, and if that means trading down to get more picks or adding a player, then they should be open to that. This draft might not be deep in star power, but it does offer a lot of viable options who can become contributors.

Additional goals: Orlando's second-round pick this year goes to Cleveland, but the Magic own Golden State's second-round pick (No. 51 overall). While there might be some international draft-and-stash opportunity there, they should also explore moving that pick or trying to move up.
 

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too bad we gave up that top-of-the-second pick up for bum ass Harper
 
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Trey Burke won me over specifically in the national championship game. He put Michigan on his back for that entire tournament. I didn't really see the same heart/mentality from McLemore :yeshrug:
 
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Trey Burke won me over specifically in the national championship game. He put Michigan on his back for that entire tournament. I didn't really see the same heart/mentality from McLemore :yeshrug:

thats COLLEGE means nothing on the pro level yeah Burke may have more heart but his skills and size doesnt translate nearly as well into the pros as Mclemore does
 

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FreedS[ohh]lave;4288181 said:
thats COLLEGE means nothing on the pro level yeah Burke may have more heart but his skills and size doesnt translate nearly as well into the pros as Mclemore does

Breh, Burke was driving to the basket, hitting 3's from well beyond NBA range and playing solid defense. McLemore pretty much disappeared near the end of games. I see McLemore filling out the box score for points, but not doing much else.
 
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Breh, Burke was driving to the basket, hitting 3's from well beyond NBA range and playing solid defense. McLemore pretty much disappeared near the end of games. I see McLemore filling out the box score for points, but not doing much else.

Against college players Burke did it,i agree Mclemore coasts but he has legit nba size and athleticism Burke doesnt

A player being better in college means ntohing otherwise Hansborugh would be a star
 
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