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Jawun Evans can't ISO nor can he play off-ball. You're not letting Evans run PnR all day with Giannis out on the floor.
 

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Jawun Evans can't ISO nor can he play off-ball. You're not letting Evans run PnR all day with Giannis out on the floor.

I was replying to "another ball handler who can break down the defense" which he does both of those things better than Frank Jackson.

The problems with him being an isolation scorer is more of his consistency with his jumper rather than him being able to take defenders off the dribble, which he is excellent at.

I think his skills there get overlooked just because so much of his offense comes out of the PnR, the only player in this draft who you could say is better here is Fultz in terms of PnR scoring. He would be excellent when Giannis isn't on the floor, he is the best passer out of the PnR in this draft by a longshot too, although Fultz's teammates didn't do him any favors in that regard.

I will give you off-ball though, Frank definitely crushes him there. His defensive upside is a lot higher too and he is a much better finisher at the rim and certainly a shooter.

But like @tremonthustler1 said, at that spot you're better off grabbing Kennard.

I'm not saying Frank can't do any of those things either, I just feel Jawun is a lot better, plus he can run the offense while Giannis is off the court right away.

I still think they should grab Patton if he manages to fall that far anyways.
 

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Still kinda shocked that he declared. At one time he was hyped as being Canada's next great young prospect. Has kind of flown under the radar the last year or 2.

He has almost identical measurements to Kawhi, 7'3 wingspan and huge hands. Doesn't have Kawhis lateral quicks though.

He is pretty talented though, i always thought he was gonna be a lamar odom type when he was younger but obviously hasn't reached that level.
 

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Celtics Rumors: Agents Fearful for Rookie Clients Drafted by 'Loaded' Boston

Agents for top prospects in the 2017 NBA draft on June 22 are reportedly worried about what would happen to their clients if the "loaded" Boston Celtics selected them.

On Saturday, ESPN's Chad Ford passed along comments one player representative made about the situation with the Celtics, who finished with the Eastern Conference's best record and are still alive in the 2017 NBA playoffs but will pick early in the draft thanks to a swap with the Brooklyn Nets.

"I have deep respect for the Celtics," the agent said. "They may have the best GM and head coach in the league. But I'd have to understand what the plan would be for my client before I let them come. They are loaded at every position. There's a real danger that they take a player and either he plays a limited role [off] the bench or he becomes an asset to be traded to a situation that we're uncomfortable with. It's tough."
Celtics Rumors: Agents Fearful for Rookie Clients Drafted by 'Loaded' Boston
 

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I wouldn't say the Celts are "loaded" at every position their not the Warriors they have one all star level player
 

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If LAL get #1 would they take Ball over Fultz?

If LAL pick falls to 3 and Fultz and Ball are off the board, do they take Jackson, who Im assuming plays he same spot as Ingram?
 

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I wouldn't say the Celts are "loaded" at every position their not the Warriors they have one all star level player
they are kinda loaded in terms of youth.

C Zizic
PF Yabusele /Mickey
SF Brown
SG Smart
PG Rozier /Demetrius Jackson


and then potentially the #1 pick and 3 2nd rounders (one of them being the 37th pick). Something has to give (and a lot of us have been saying that. At some point they must consolidate in order to add a third all-star level player.
 

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If LAL get #1 would they take Ball over Fultz?

If LAL pick falls to 3 and Fultz and Ball are off the board, do they take Jackson, who Im assuming plays he same spot as Ingram?

Lakers would probably take Fox if they pick at 3 and Ball/Fultz are gone.
 

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they are kinda loaded in terms of youth.

C Zizic
PF Yabusele /Mickey
SF Brown
SG Smart
PG Rozier /Demetrius Jackson


and then potentially the #1 pick and 3 2nd rounders (one of them being the 37th pick). Something has to give (and a lot of us have been saying that. At some point they must consolidate in order to add a third all-star level player.

I agree but if I'm a top 3 pick none of those guys mentioned intimidates me. I'm not thinking "damn Marcus Smart is great there's no way I'll ever start over him" but I get your point.

Do u think the players saying this kinda forces Ainges hand to finally give up some assets for a star?
 

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Why everyone projecting Orlando to get Tatum?
new management, want their own guys, and they don't have a need specifically because they have a clusterfukk everywhere, but to me it's either Fox or Tatum right now.

I just hope they sell low on Hezonja because I don't see a rhyme or reason to their construction.
 

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I agree but if I'm a top 3 pick none of those guys mentioned intimidates me. I'm not thinking "damn Marcus Smart is great there's no way I'll ever start over him" but I get your point.

Do u think the players saying this kinda forces Ainges hand to finally give up some assets for a star?
The article just pinpointed agents, not necessarily ones going top 5.. I listed depth at their respective positions. None of those guys actually start, which adds to the agents' concern
 
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